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Industrial ship rebalance
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Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries
Forgers United
#1 - 2014-05-06 18:53:42 UTC
...I heard some specifics already leaked on fanfest, like Freighters and JFs getting less HP, cargo and will be able to be rigged (I really hope its true) and t2 haulers getting a second high slot (Seriously? What for damned?!)

Can we get some specifics please, Fozzie? Cool
Ltsaimon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-05-06 20:32:43 UTC
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-05-06 20:52:25 UTC
as far as freighters go, freighter pilots bitched about wanting rigs, so theya re getting them.

Now youll either be able to fit rigs for cargo and have the same as now but severely less tank (which means your guaranteed to eb ganked, because why else would you use those rigs other than to fill the ****** up), or to devote your rigs to tanka nd have the same as now, be just as easy to gank as now, but have less cargo space.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-05-06 20:56:09 UTC
Back when covert ops cloakin devices were changed they also made it so that anything (SOE ships being the exception) that could use a covert ops cloak could also use a covert cyno.

When this happened players requested that the other 3 block aid runners get a second high slot so they could cloak and cyno.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Kate Blaze
True Power Capsuleers
#5 - 2014-05-06 23:53:06 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
as far as freighters go, freighter pilots bitched about wanting rigs, so theya re getting them.

Now youll either be able to fit rigs for cargo and have the same as now but severely less tank (which means your guaranteed to eb ganked, because why else would you use those rigs other than to fill the ****** up), or to devote your rigs to tanka nd have the same as now, be just as easy to gank as now, but have less cargo space.

Easy fix is to lower the cargo, but up the tank on base model. That way, if you fit for cargo, you get same as now, if you fit for tank, you get awesome tank.
Ltsaimon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-05-07 02:36:15 UTC
Lets keep this thread about industrials getting high slots.
Rapscallion Jones
Omnibus Solutions
#7 - 2014-05-07 03:24:57 UTC
Because, in the Retribution1.1 Black Ops buff Blockade Runners picked up that ability to light a covert cyno, but only the Prowler had the requisite two high slots need to fit a Covert Ops Cloak and Covert Cynosural Field Generator. This change allows the Crane, Prorator and Viator to join the black ops party.
Zakarumit CZ
Zakarum Industries
Forgers United
#8 - 2014-05-07 11:24:13 UTC
Ah, that makes sance, so cov ops haulers can all light cov ops cyno.
I am still eager to see changes to deep space transports tho. They might rebalance Orca and mainly Rorqual on the way as well - with the compression changes rorqual could really use some serious buff.
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#9 - 2014-05-07 11:56:51 UTC
Requested a lock for:

"No F&I apart from a request for a Dev Blog. I believe the OP has an answer to his only question.

Please consider for a lock."

Please post these kind of things in GD or propose a Feature or Idea.

Thank you.

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#10 - 2014-05-07 12:03:14 UTC
Kate Blaze wrote:
Easy fix is to lower the cargo, but up the tank on base model. That way, if you fit for cargo, you get same as now, if you fit for tank, you get awesome tank.

But that would be a buff rather than a nerf.

Oh god.
Odithia
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-05-07 12:27:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Odithia
And Prowler goes back to being the worst blockade runner as it looses it's biggest advantage wile remaining the only one unable to carry a Cruiser.

Mobile depot already hit the 2nd hi-slot
Probe launcher pretty hard.
Rodent Jr
GSF Logistics and Posting Reserves
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2014-05-07 13:22:34 UTC
Maximus Aerelius wrote:
Requested a lock for:

"No F&I apart from a request for a Dev Blog. I believe the OP has an answer to his only question.

Please consider for a lock."

Please post these kind of things in GD or propose a Feature or Idea.

Thank you.


Here's a feature idea:

Free kill rights on condescending amateur forum moderators.
Rodent Jr
GSF Logistics and Posting Reserves
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2014-05-07 13:27:14 UTC
Odithia wrote:
And Prowler goes back to being the worst blockade runner as it looses it's biggest advantage wile remaining the only one unable to carry a Cruiser.

Mobile depot already hit the 2nd hi-slot
Probe launcher pretty hard.


Not necessarily, this is the only change we know about. I wouldn't be surprised to see something crazy like each racial BR getting a unique dedicated cargo bay like the Epithal / Miasmos / Kryos.
Kate Blaze
True Power Capsuleers
#14 - 2014-05-07 13:32:20 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Kate Blaze wrote:
Easy fix is to lower the cargo, but up the tank on base model. That way, if you fit for cargo, you get same as now, if you fit for tank, you get awesome tank.

But that would be a buff rather than a nerf.

And?
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#15 - 2014-05-07 13:57:11 UTC
Kate Blaze wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
Kate Blaze wrote:
Easy fix is to lower the cargo, but up the tank on base model. That way, if you fit for cargo, you get same as now, if you fit for tank, you get awesome tank.

But that would be a buff rather than a nerf.

And?

The proposed changes suggest CCP wants to nerf them. Your fix doesn't do that, so it isn't a fix at all.

Oh god.
Kate Blaze
True Power Capsuleers
#16 - 2014-05-07 20:40:21 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Kate Blaze wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
Kate Blaze wrote:
Easy fix is to lower the cargo, but up the tank on base model. That way, if you fit for cargo, you get same as now, if you fit for tank, you get awesome tank.

But that would be a buff rather than a nerf.

And?

The proposed changes suggest CCP wants to nerf them. Your fix doesn't do that, so it isn't a fix at all.

Why would they want to nerf them?