EVE General Discussion

I'll bet you're popular with the ladies.

******* misogynist.

Also: Nothing. Remove NEX.

Character Genesculpting? I want a goddam sharkmouth painted on my mael, not genesculpted on my character.....

I'd consider paying space gold for more permanent ship fitting slots my personal server-side allotment.

Nah, **** CCP. They are not content with the hard currency that I'm paying them under the guise of a "subscription."

Taking away formerly available utility and then charging your customers to put it back is terrible business ethics and definitely noticed by customers (who then tell their friends not to even bother with the service).

Hopefully CCP have done the math and realise that close to 9% of all males are neckbeards who are afraid of asterisks
That 100% of that 9% are frequently online.
That 60% of that 9% are employed in a form of employment that gives them enough discretionary income to play Eve Online.
That 40% of that 9% are unemployed and thus have the time to spend grinding enough isk to translate into Eve Online Subscriptions.
That 9% of the males in the USA aged between 16 and 50 equals more subscriptions than any online game in history.

Go and shoot a monument in favour of NeX and see if the model gets updated in the next patch about it.

I'm sure the skull-******* hole helps.


tbh i don't care either way, so long as I am never forced to use it to play the game (Think I've said this about other things. Yeah, I have.) That reminds me, have to complete my "remove my Aur" petitions on both accounts...

Jade,

I appreciate your argumentation and I think I'll reassess my view on the matter. It is possible that getting rid of MT would please more people than keeping it pleases, which of course is most important in the long run. Probably majority is quite indifferent to the issue, and will remain so or see it as more interesting if ship skins for aurum are introduced.

There are some points that have probably affected my opinion:

- as a newer player I don't share the bittervetness, my personal experiences with CPP are (very) positive and I have faith in them
- I notice a tendency to try to retain this positive image and possibly overlook contradicting evidence
- EvE is the only game I play, allowing it to fill the whole "computer entertainment budget", which is rather flexible;
- monthly subscription fee (or fees in my case) is insignificant compared to other life expenses in the region I live
- I'm not concerned with perceived greedyness of CCP, companies try to increase their profits
- I find myseld very attached to New Eden, and supporting the company behind it is in my best interests

So while I probably will pimp my ships' looks with aurum if that becomes possible, implementing customization as a sandbox feature would actually be cooler.

If someone convinces me that not spending aurum can change the course of things, I'll refrain from spending them just to support a cause.

Fly dangerous o7

Perhaps, up until the point they start wondering "what am I paying this subscription for if I still need to find more cash to access game content?" And later on they might wonder ... "why couldn't ship skins be manufactured and sold by players for players like the rest of the economy in Eve?" or "Wouldn't it make more sense if factional themed ship skins came from the faction-aligned LP stores rather than through an Amarrian-owned clothing brand?"



Its a fair point, but you'll probably find as you stay with Eve that there will come a time when you can use additional accounts and end up paying 1-3x times your basic subs anyway for the convenience of industrial alts, cyno alts, scout/falcon alts etc etc. And thats effectively giving CCP additional M(acro)transactions through the course of your hobby anyway. Or you might find out you've been busy at work this month and can't afford the latest flavour of the month pvp ships and decide to convert a Plex or two for funding in game. That too is feeding CCP extra money from your commitment to the game. Question is why do they need other methods (NeX/MT) that actually remove content from other players to make more money from you?



Well, before NeXCarna I was paying for 4 subscriptions and it came in at around the cost of my satelite tv monthly payment. (and more than my household internet). While its not a vast expense I wouldn't call it insignificant either. One might say I was already supporting CCP with the additional accounts - those were the form of (MT) I had devoted to the success of a company I was supporting. I guess at some point the MicroTransaction Industry gurus that CCP hired last year must have made the pitch ...

"Look at these cheapass eve players paying $15 dollars a month to play ... we can definitely squeeze double that income from these turkeys if we introduce some content they like via the NeX store - we'll double our profits!"

Not realizing that a big proportion of longterm Eve players who built the subs base CCP used to fund Eve and two other major projects have already been "squeezed" by buying and paying for additional accounts. And when your $15 dollars a month has become $60 a month to feed your Eve addiction you aren't particularly in the mood to drop extra $70 dollar slices of your paycheck on monocles.



Well its the raw stupidity that offends me over and above the greediness actually. I think the NeX/MT drive was coming from people that CCP hired in to advise them on the "industry" who basically were underqualified, frankly innept, and clearly didn't understand the way Eve Online became a success in the first place. They brought their experience in bilking short term income from previously loyal customers from other failing games and sold illusions of $ signs to the icelanders. To nobody else's great surprise it was a complete disaster.

I too support CCP and like New Eden a lot. But sometimes you need to tell even your best friends when they are making terrible mistakes and hurting themselves. NeX/MT dominated Eve Online is a dying Eve Online that will spiral down the plughole to oblivion. Now some bitter vets might be content to post "I told you so" and laugh at the corpse, others actually do care enough to try to change the course away from the iceburg.



Then oppose the cheap and nasty option and support the sandbox implementation. Let CCP know in strong terms that ship skins through NeX would not be welcome. They read these forums and they poll player opinion. They are one of the best companies in the gaming world when they are on their top form and crazy icelandic roots just as they are one of the worst when trying to follow the herd.

All that means is that people buying AURUM has an effect on the Eve economy. And that's a bad thing.

The only things that should affect the Eve economy are things that are done in Eve.

And yes, that does mean that I'd be quite happy to see the end of the PLEX as well.