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Phoenix Upgrade?
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Dr Cedric
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-05-06 05:11:07 UTC
So, this weekend I was watching a (probably illegal, or at least not CCP sponsored) youtube video of the Ships/Modules rebalancing talk that Fozzie and Rise gave.

Youtube linky, watch starting at 6:58

You can see Fozzie talking about revamping a ship, and that ship is the Phoenix dreadnaught. If you follow the Youtube poster's next session (this one was 3/5) it seems to skip over whatever they were talking about. Anybody know any details on what this Phoenix Upgrade might be?

Cedric
Odithia
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-05-06 05:46:43 UTC
Something about a Shield resist bonus instead of kinetic damage.

Other buff will apply to citadel missiles.

http://i.imgur.com/rySv2vP.jpg
xPredat0rz
Project.Nova
The Initiative.
#3 - 2014-05-06 06:01:12 UTC
They are roling the damage buff into a rate of fire buff(Equal dps for all damage types) And giving it something like a 4-5% bonus resists per level.

Also making it so caps cant speed tank the missiles.

So your looking at a structure bashing king soon.

Will still be forth fiddle to the other 3 because it can not blap.
RcTamiya Leontis
Magister Mortalis.
#4 - 2014-05-06 07:36:45 UTC
Well at least it does improve the situation with the pheonix, but it doesn't solve the problems entirely, however a pheonix CAN blap battleships at least .... some kind of improvement to the situation right now :)
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
#5 - 2014-05-06 12:00:03 UTC
xPredat0rz wrote:
They are roling the damage buff into a rate of fire buff(Equal dps for all damage types) And giving it something like a 4-5% bonus resists per level.

Also making it so caps cant speed tank the missiles.

So your looking at a structure bashing king soon.

Will still be forth fiddle to the other 3 because it can not blap.

Phoenix can indeed blap, and will be able to do so even better post-buff. All it needs is strong crash, Rigor rigs, and many webs and TPs. I suggest you go watch Lord Servant's Phoenix solo pvp video when it gets re-released.

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
RcTamiya Leontis
Magister Mortalis.
#6 - 2014-05-06 12:08:46 UTC
Liam Inkuras wrote:
xPredat0rz wrote:
They are roling the damage buff into a rate of fire buff(Equal dps for all damage types) And giving it something like a 4-5% bonus resists per level.

Also making it so caps cant speed tank the missiles.

So your looking at a structure bashing king soon.

Will still be forth fiddle to the other 3 because it can not blap.

Phoenix can indeed blap, and will be able to do so even better post-buff. All it needs is strong crash, Rigor rigs, and many webs and TPs. I suggest you go watch Lord Servant's Phoenix solo pvp video when it gets re-released.



Nooooooo you've just made a tactic public ,i loved using, which was entirely underrated :(

In fact ... all you need to ONESHOT a common bhaalgorn: 1 Pheonix 2 damnations( with 2 faction TP each), 1 webbingship of your choice with atleast 2-3 webs ....
Don't use scrambs, rather have it heavy webbed and mwd on .... Twisted

Does work without drugs on battleships & battlecruiers, will also 2 shot proteus (turns into a 1shot with mwd on and 3 webs)
Does need drugs to apply damage on logis (oneiros/guardian)
Does work even better in pulsar ....
Can't be undertracked (in fact even with dual 90% webs you can undertrack a nag/moros/rev if in close orbit)
Sadly only ~ 40k range :(

Well shame on you for telling everybody :P but i think more accurate numbers should be shared once people get told about this ;)
Blodhgarm Dethahal
8 Sins of Man
Stray Dogs.
#7 - 2014-05-06 13:30:44 UTC
If they are rolling the DPS into a ROF bonus instead then you lose volley damage so you cannot one shot sub caps anymore... probably...

The main reason it was able to blap at all is that even though it was hitting ships so small its massive volley damage makes up for it.. 10% applied damage of 140,000 is still 14,000, fair chunk still.

On the other hand it is now the final word to anti-structure and anti-capital warfare. 40-50k DPS Tank with T2 fit with 100% selectable damage types? yes please.
unidenify
Deaf Armada
#8 - 2014-05-06 14:26:25 UTC
xPredat0rz wrote:
They are roling the damage buff into a rate of fire buff(Equal dps for all damage types) And giving it something like a 4-5% bonus resists per level.

Also making it so caps cant speed tank the missiles.

So your looking at a structure bashing king soon.

Will still be forth fiddle to the other 3 because it can not blap.



likely 4% shield resist per level like other caldari ship with same bonus.
RcTamiya Leontis
Magister Mortalis.
#9 - 2014-05-06 16:49:29 UTC
Blodhgarm Dethahal wrote:
If they are rolling the DPS into a ROF bonus instead then you lose volley damage so you cannot one shot sub caps anymore... probably...

The main reason it was able to blap at all is that even though it was hitting ships so small its massive volley damage makes up for it.. 10% applied damage of 140,000 is still 14,000, fair chunk still.

On the other hand it is now the final word to anti-structure and anti-capital warfare. 40-50k DPS Tank with T2 fit with 100% selectable damage types? yes please.



STill 120+k alpha on selectable dmg type, enough to go on 1 shotting stuff ;)