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N'maro Makari
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#61 - 2014-05-09 04:14:40 UTC
ValentinaDLM wrote:


Also, I must say you seem terrified at the thought of people thinking differently than you do, is it really so hard to understand that the Nation is not the abhorrent monster under your bed that you wish it to be?


Well they do steal actual people.

Bit of a hard sell, to be honest.

**Vherokior **

Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#62 - 2014-05-09 13:29:42 UTC
N'maro Makari wrote:
ValentinaDLM wrote:


Also, I must say you seem terrified at the thought of people thinking differently than you do, is it really so hard to understand that the Nation is not the abhorrent monster under your bed that you wish it to be?


Well they do steal actual people.

Bit of a hard sell, to be honest.


Theft of population is relative. To you it's theft, to us it's not.

To the Amarr, taking the Minmatar wasn't theft it was God's Will and a holy task, to the Minmatar it was theft.
To the Minmatar, taking those people back was saving them, to the Amarr who owned those slaves it was theft.
To the anarchist, the facist police forces inside the State or Federation have no right to arrest people. To those governments, it is enforcing correct law.

People keep stating subjective matters as if they were written in stone objective universal truths. At the end of the day, you simply belong to a culture that values freedom over your future.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#63 - 2014-05-09 15:04:44 UTC
Hence why the correct term is "abduction". "Theft" implies property, which people are not.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#64 - 2014-05-09 15:51:01 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Hence why the correct term is "abduction". "Theft" implies property, which people are not.


I believe the correct term is "Uplifted".
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#65 - 2014-05-09 15:54:37 UTC
ValentinaDLM wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
Hence why the correct term is "abduction". "Theft" implies property, which people are not.


I believe the correct term is "Uplifted".


For us, dear, not for them.
N'maro Makari
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#66 - 2014-05-09 18:43:12 UTC
"No, no, it's not abduction, you just don't understand because you aren't as smart as I am"

There is no dictionary in Nation?

**Vherokior **

Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#67 - 2014-05-09 18:43:49 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
ValentinaDLM wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
Hence why the correct term is "abduction". "Theft" implies property, which people are not.


I believe the correct term is "Uplifted".


For us, dear, not for them.


Did you ask those people if they want to be "uplifted"? Did you ask them if they want to loose their mind, their memory, their legacy and become a biomechanical wreck?

I think you guys always forget to do that one thing.
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#68 - 2014-05-09 19:03:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Evi Polevhia
N'maro Makari wrote:
"No, no, it's not abduction, you just don't understand because you aren't as smart as I am"


Why are you quoting the Amarr?

Jaret Victorian wrote:

Did you ask those people if they want to be "uplifted"?


I didn't realize in a war we had to ask permission. Tell you what, next time CONCORD comes to attack Nation I will remind them they didn't ask permission first.

Jaret Victorian wrote:
Did you ask them if they want to loose their mind, their memory, their legacy and become a biomechanical wreck?


Now now, don't buy into propaganda. Useful things are always kept.
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#69 - 2014-05-09 20:02:57 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:


I didn't realize in a war we had to ask permission. Tell you what, next time CONCORD comes to attack Nation I will remind them they didn't ask permission first.


Oh, you call that a war now? Tell you what, I feel pain when I wreck Sansha vessels because they are filled with innocent people who can't resist the will of a maniac. Innocent people who were kidnapped, separated whrom their loved ones. And I wonder, now that you mention CONCORD. Why won't Sansha attack Guristas, par exemple? Noone will miss those scumbags, I assure you.

Evi Polevhia wrote:
Now now, don't buy into propaganda. Useful things are always kept.

Come see for yourself, eh?
Anslo
Scope Works
#70 - 2014-05-09 20:07:46 UTC
So is ILAW helping you "uplift" more by giving you Matari POW's? Not being aggressive, just curious. It's weird seeing you people in Bleak Lands.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#71 - 2014-05-09 20:13:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Evi Polevhia
Jaret Victorian wrote:
Oh, you call that a war now?


It's been a war for 79 years. Not sure where you've been.

Jaret Victorian wrote:
Why won't Sansha attack Guristas, par exemple? Noone will miss those scumbags, I assure you.


Interfactional politics of entities I am not a member of is not my expertise. I suggest asking Citizen Ahvar.

Anslo wrote:
So is ILAW helping you "uplift" more by giving you Matari POW's? Not being aggressive, just curious. It's weird seeing you people in Bleak Lands.


It's all Haereticus down here, mate. Amarr Victor.
Anslo
Scope Works
#72 - 2014-05-09 20:18:00 UTC
OK. I'm just gonna have some popcorn shipped in here. I sense a new drama starting up.

.....this gonna be good.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#73 - 2014-05-09 20:24:35 UTC
Anslo wrote:
OK. I'm just gonna have some popcorn shipped in here. I sense a new drama starting up.

.....this gonna be good.

*offers popcorn*

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#74 - 2014-05-09 20:28:04 UTC
What kind of drama can we expect?

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.

Anslo
Scope Works
#75 - 2014-05-09 20:29:01 UTC
Desiderya wrote:
What kind of drama can we expect?


How many edgy, legalese-style remarks can your CEO dole out?

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#76 - 2014-05-09 20:57:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaret Victorian
Evi Polevhia wrote:

It's been a war for 79 years. Not sure where you've been.

Nowhere, I wasn't even born. Now, ugly war or glorious "uplifting"? Need to choose one.

Anslo wrote:
OK. I'm just gonna have some popcorn shipped in here. I sense a new drama starting up.

.....this gonna be good.

Sorry mate, no entartainment for dem pirates.
Anslo
Scope Works
#77 - 2014-05-09 21:00:25 UTC
Jaret Victorian wrote:

Anslo wrote:
OK. I'm just gonna have some popcorn shipped in here. I sense a new drama starting up.

.....this gonna be good.

Sorry mate, no entartainment for dem pirates.


I prefer the term vigilante.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#78 - 2014-05-09 21:07:37 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Desiderya wrote:
What kind of drama can we expect?


How many edgy, legalese-style remarks can your CEO dole out?


Not enough to compete with yours, truly.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.

Anslo
Scope Works
#79 - 2014-05-09 21:09:19 UTC
Desiderya wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Desiderya wrote:
What kind of drama can we expect?


How many edgy, legalese-style remarks can your CEO dole out?


Not enough to compete with yours, truly.


...you know, you used to be good at snarky, funny sarcasm.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#80 - 2014-05-09 21:26:55 UTC
My CEO sucked the life out of me.
Then I took a chip to the brain.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.