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Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
#21 - 2014-05-04 02:58:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Armaeus Hellbrecht
Ranger 1 wrote:
Or to put it another way, now that they have developed a game for console they can judge that platforms capabilities from a position of experience... and they have found the PS3 and PS4 lacking to support the game they want to develop.

So being in that position they agree to continue to polish the game they created, but are switching development of a far more in depth version over to a platform that CAN support it... the PC.

If that doesn't make sense or sound fair to you, fair enough, but it does sound pretty logical and fair to me.

http://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hardware_Specs that platform cant support DUSt 514 ? hmm

LoL some haze and a tree constitutes nothing .....
Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
#22 - 2014-05-04 03:12:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Armaeus Hellbrecht
Ranger 1 wrote:
Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:
Katsumoto Moliko wrote:
Feel free to correct me if I am wrong about anything below, but;



I, for one, am nothing but completely optimistic about what has been announced, and I eagerly await the day where I can charge into these new frontiers with my EVE friends.


Pretorian was quoted last year as saying there are 80 million PS#'s world wide...his words not mine.Out of those 80 million consumers CCp has failed to deliver a product in a micro transaction F2P format.

Legion will fail , the math is already there.

And here is where you begin to show your true colors. Big smileBig smileBig smile

Actually, they have delivered a product, just not the product they wanted to deliver. There is nothing holding them back from developing it on PC.

http://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hardware_Specs

You're dismissed......
Sher Rayet
#23 - 2014-05-04 03:33:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Sher Rayet
edit, reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNkFxj0G42I

Quote:
Bullocks. Serious business. This looks amazing, flexibility and the ability to link the EVE universe from the PS4. Ban me whenever you like--Because again, we've worked long enough than we realized over time and HONESTLY, HONESTLY, sorry.


I can imagine how frustrated it was to stand and hear this ass. What is his name? CCP what?

"It's just inevitable and drama s going to happen. I suspect Dust isn't going anywhere for a long time. blahblah blah blah"


Who is this capital D!CK??? what is his dev name. Fire him, terrible, terrible spiteful dev. I don't like this guy what so ever, the way he blew off questions in audience like that to "lol" . That guy can **** off.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#24 - 2014-05-04 03:40:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:
Katsumoto Moliko wrote:
Feel free to correct me if I am wrong about anything below, but;



I, for one, am nothing but completely optimistic about what has been announced, and I eagerly await the day where I can charge into these new frontiers with my EVE friends.


Pretorian was quoted last year as saying there are 80 million PS#'s world wide...his words not mine.Out of those 80 million consumers CCp has failed to deliver a product in a micro transaction F2P format.

Legion will fail , the math is already there.

And here is where you begin to show your true colors. Big smileBig smileBig smile

Actually, they have delivered a product, just not the product they wanted to deliver. There is nothing holding them back from developing it on PC.

http://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hardware_Specs

You're dismissed......

I see the differences between developing for a PC as opposed to console development are lost on you... most of them are not necessarily hardware related.

Of course, they haven't ruled out a port to the PS4 eventually... so a version for the console market could still be a possibility, but it's not their focus.

You can crawl back under your bridge now.

View the latest EVE Online developments and other game related news and gameplay by visiting Ranger 1 Presents: Virtual Realms.
Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
#25 - 2014-05-04 03:44:01 UTC
Sher Rayet wrote:
edit, reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNkFxj0G42I

Quote:
Bullocks. Serious business. This looks amazing, flexibility and the ability to link the EVE universe from the PS4. Ban me whenever you like--Because again, we've worked long enough than we realized over time and HONESTLY, HONESTLY, sorry.


I can imagine how frustrated it was to stand and hear this ass. What is his name? CCP what?

"It's just inevitable and drama s going to happen. I suspect Dust isn't going anywhere for a long time. blahblah blah blah"


Who is this capital D!CK??? what is his dev name. Fire him, terrible, terrible spiteful dev. I don't like this guy what so ever, the way he blew off questions in audience like that to "lol" . That guy can **** off.


Thats what Im saying .What is CCP saying about there corporate "culture" . You dont have concern's about this attitude toward that consumer when us EVE players are are just another consumer as well?
Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
#26 - 2014-05-04 03:49:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Armaeus Hellbrecht
Ranger 1 wrote:
Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:
Katsumoto Moliko wrote:
Feel free to correct me if I am wrong about anything below, but;



I, for one, am nothing but completely optimistic about what has been announced, and I eagerly await the day where I can charge into these new frontiers with my EVE friends.


Pretorian was quoted last year as saying there are 80 million PS#'s world wide...his words not mine.Out of those 80 million consumers CCp has failed to deliver a product in a micro transaction F2P format.

Legion will fail , the math is already there.

And here is where you begin to show your true colors. Big smileBig smileBig smile

Actually, they have delivered a product, just not the product they wanted to deliver. There is nothing holding them back from developing it on PC.

http://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PlayStation_4_Hardware_Specs

You're dismissed......

I see the differences between developing for a PC as opposed to console development are lost on you... most of them are not necessarily hardware related.

Of course, they haven't ruled out a port to the PS4 eventually... so a version for the console market could still be a possibility, but it's not their focus.

You can crawl back under your bridge now.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evumQppKogo#t=24
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/06/interview-dust-514-on-ps3-will-help-hurt-eve-online-players-in-new-ways/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgEmtmbGxwY#t=41
@:39 @1:09 and the most important question of all @ 5:02
please stfu
whispers/your pom poms are in the closet over there next to your lipstick and hi heels
Tysun Kane
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2014-05-04 04:04:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Tysun Kane
Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:
Im posting this here but im sure it will be moved. If some of you are concerned the Dust 514 forums are in open revlot at the DUST 514 keynote. I must admit I have serious doubts as to the professionalism of game company that hyped this product and is now abandoning it. I have serious concerns about the how an EA executive producer does not see the potential for revenues being generated by cross platform games and why the 180 back to PC.

Legion is DUST 514 and the game magazines have already rated it. Those that would've played it have tried it. I have concerns for a game company that cant port Unreal onto the PS4 or X box ! . Hardcore FPS players have judged this game based on its performance. Those 2.5k peak player base will be conservatively halved if they even move or much less can afford too.

I have real world concern about the ethics of a company that would do this to there player base. In looking at this companies track record with past projects we see a trend of failure and a stand alone that's best traits are player driven and all the others have failed. Valkyrie and any future projects that CCP considers will have this massive blight as well as others to contend with along with crushed consumer confidence.

Gamers are gamers regardless of platform and as such its doubtful IMO that a polished version of DUST renamed will be met with some epic reception by the PC community when DUST community of regular long term players are those of you or those who have played EVE online and own PC's as well.

IMO Project Legion is a joke. It'll take more than haze and a tree or a still frame pic thru a bay door to bring any real player immersion.You forget that PC game consumers are alot harsher Critiqs of trash when something is trash.

I guess we can chalk this one up to walking in stations, world of darkness, and now DUST in its long list of fails.
Im also thinking you should get some of your people into some drug rehab programs starting with Praetorian to keep the rest of us from suffering from his grandiose pipe dreams.



CCP last keynote stated they are not abandoning 514, they had another 514 keynote talking about progression plans for dust 514, and if you want to play legion you can port your toon, sp, isk,and progression to legion.

If this isn't enough to make you happy please go back to WOW and play with pandas. CCP made some of the most jaw dropping announcements at fanfest that even had twitch chat getting along and playing nice with each other in all the excitement.

It's very clear CCP intent is to focus on EVE and the EVE universe for the first time in years or at least since I can remember, and you still have whine on the forums? Sony made the PS4 for the future of there games. CCP devs said in the interview with mimic that it doesn't make sense to start on a new consoles because they can make a better and more lasting product bringing it to PC, and make all there new games all apart of the one universe we all know and love.
Adunh Slavy
#28 - 2014-05-04 04:04:23 UTC
I do understand your frustration, but you're letting reason fly out the window.

Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:

I must admit I have serious doubts as to the professionalism of game company that hyped this product and is now abandoning it.


"Art is never finished, only abandoned." - da Vinci

Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:

Legion is DUST 514 and the game magazines have already rated it.


Equivocal Sophistry

Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:

Those 2.5k peak player base ...


All of 2,500 eh? And just how much revenue do 2,500 players bring in anyway? Enough to justify the expense?

Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:

I have real world concern about the ethics of a company that would do this to there player base.


No, you don't. You have a concern over if you can still play a free game, one for which you do not pay and use the excuse of ethics. Sorry but that dog not only can't hunt but is morally bankrupt.


Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:

In looking at this companies track record with past projects we see a trend of failure and a stand alone that's best traits are player driven and all the others have failed.


This is called getting a clue, something CCP appears to have gotten, took them long enough. CCP has a core competency, best to build on what you know.

There is a very good reason why James Brown was the god father of soul, and it had nothing to do with his ability to play basketball.


Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#29 - 2014-05-04 04:05:36 UTC
Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:
Sher Rayet wrote:
edit, reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNkFxj0G42I

Quote:
Bullocks. Serious business. This looks amazing, flexibility and the ability to link the EVE universe from the PS4. Ban me whenever you like--Because again, we've worked long enough than we realized over time and HONESTLY, HONESTLY, sorry.


I can imagine how frustrated it was to stand and hear this ass. What is his name? CCP what?

"It's just inevitable and drama s going to happen. I suspect Dust isn't going anywhere for a long time. blahblah blah blah"


Who is this capital D!CK??? what is his dev name. Fire him, terrible, terrible spiteful dev. I don't like this guy what so ever, the way he blew off questions in audience like that to "lol" . That guy can **** off.


Thats what Im saying .What is CCP saying about there corporate "culture" . You dont have concern's about this attitude toward that consumer when us EVE players are are just another consumer as well?

You two do realize the narrator in that video you linked is a DUST player, not a CCP rep right?

View the latest EVE Online developments and other game related news and gameplay by visiting Ranger 1 Presents: Virtual Realms.
Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
#30 - 2014-05-04 04:17:54 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:


No, you don't. You have a concern over if you can still play a free game, one for which you do not pay and use the excuse of ethics. Sorry but that dog not only can't hunt but is morally bankrupt.



thanks for your uninformed dribble. Anyone who plays dust 514 pays for boosters equivalent to subs on EVE.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#31 - 2014-05-04 04:50:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:
Adunh Slavy wrote:


No, you don't. You have a concern over if you can still play a free game, one for which you do not pay and use the excuse of ethics. Sorry but that dog not only can't hunt but is morally bankrupt.



thanks for your uninformed dribble. Anyone who plays dust 514 pays for boosters equivalent to subs on EVE.

Citation needed.

Take your time, we'll wait.

View the latest EVE Online developments and other game related news and gameplay by visiting Ranger 1 Presents: Virtual Realms.
Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
#32 - 2014-05-04 05:01:06 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:
Adunh Slavy wrote:


No, you don't. You have a concern over if you can still play a free game, one for which you do not pay and use the excuse of ethics. Sorry but that dog not only can't hunt but is morally bankrupt.



thanks for your uninformed dribble. Anyone who plays dust 514 pays for boosters equivalent to subs on EVE.

Citation needed.

Take your time, we'll wait.

http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Skill_Points
there
http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Boosters
and there
http://dust514.com/game/add-ons/
and cost in USD of DUST 514 AUR
Adunh Slavy
#33 - 2014-05-04 05:17:38 UTC
Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:
Adunh Slavy wrote:


No, you don't. You have a concern over if you can still play a free game, one for which you do not pay and use the excuse of ethics. Sorry but that dog not only can't hunt but is morally bankrupt.



thanks for your uninformed dribble. Anyone who plays dust 514 pays for boosters equivalent to subs on EVE.

Citation needed.

Take your time, we'll wait.

http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Skill_Points
there
http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Boosters
and there
http://dust514.com/game/add-ons/
and cost in USD of DUST 514 AUR



All of which you can buy from the in game market

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#34 - 2014-05-04 05:22:07 UTC
who let the console peasants in here?
shoo! bad troll!! Back under your bridge...

This forums are for the master race.
Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
#35 - 2014-05-04 05:26:26 UTC
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
who let the console peasants in here?
shoo! bad troll!! Back under your bridge...

This forums are for the master race.

lol the only thing you've mastered my friend is "bating "

Blink
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#36 - 2014-05-04 05:31:12 UTC
Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:

lol the only thing you've mastered my friend is "bating "

Blink


oh I'm sorry my friend... you lack the proper parts for the job?
my condolences and go back under your bridge now... your peasant friends are waiting for you to fill more buckets.

In more serious note.... CCP did not canceled Dust they just make a client on the pc as well, difference is on the pc you'll be able to play eve + dust + valk while on ps3 you'll only get dust.
Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
#37 - 2014-05-04 05:40:15 UTC
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:

lol the only thing you've mastered my friend is "bating "

Blink


oh I'm sorry my friend... you lack the proper parts for the job?
my condolences and go back under your bridge now... your peasant friends are waiting for you to fill more buckets.

In more serious note.... CCP did not canceled Dust they just make a client on the pc as well, difference is on the pc you'll be able to play eve + dust + valk while on ps3 you'll only get dust.

right ...so you think that wont add to your sub as is right now ? You're going to pay a PLEX for DUST 514 ? and one for Val, and one for EVE. Like paying for another Training Que in EVE ?

Sorry Im pretty skeptical about that.
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#38 - 2014-05-04 05:44:49 UTC
you play with same toon for all 3 games.
Dust is f2p
I bet vlak will be as well.
so the sub will be for eve...

BUT....
if they'll charge something like 20-35$ for all 3 games on single account it's great deal as you get 3 integrated games.... big potential.

Also think about it gameplay wise... it's opening lot more options as a player.
Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
#39 - 2014-05-04 05:58:11 UTC
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
you play with same toon for all 3 games.
Dust is f2p
I bet vlak will be as well.
so the sub will be for eve...

BUT....
if they'll charge something like 20-35$ for all 3 games on single account it's great deal as you get 3 integrated games.... big potential.

Also think about it gameplay wise... it's opening lot more options as a player.


We asked them to do that from the very start. I distinctly remember at fanfest a couple years ago a player asking if there EVE toon will be able to go planet side they said no.

So a DUST toon gets free jump clones? kinda kicks the whole station standing mechanic right out the window doesn't it.
Lets complicate DUST solders having to buy a SP clone every time they die in an fps....

( I dont know about all that)

If you cant tell Im a skeptic and like many others I think im done subsisting on CCP lies, hype and dreams.
Cat Troll
Incorruptibles
#40 - 2014-05-04 06:24:49 UTC
CCP should have announced it for the PS4 too.
As much as I like PC gaming, DUST 514 is a console game now with it's own dedicated community.

What CCP did right there was Incarna levels, heck even higher.

If DUST players had Jita, it would already be burned to a crisp.

Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off."
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