EVE General Discussion

So what I'm reading is "T2 BPOs suck but I'd still be really upset if they took mine away".

Assets shoudl NEVER be deleted/recycled, or any variation of the above. Made inert/unusable? sure, mayeb with compensation if theyre nice, but collectors collect colectables for a reason, not to make money off them, but to say they own a limited piece of EVE history.

That's pretty much what it boils down to. Some people (usually BPO owners) seem to disagree that it's a bad thing that a single person can fulfill 100% of all demand for half a million players. Those people who promote that agenda are wrong.

Please provide at least 2 specific examples where this is happening right now.

Hopefully you can understand that any rational person would need to see some actual evidence of this happening before they could accept your claims as nothing but anecdotal.

You have made your claims quite authoritatively at least twice about this, please show us where you got your information exactly and name at least 2 Tech II items in game right now where a single person can fulfill 100% of all demand for 500,000 players.

I'd like to be able to see for myself what this great injustice is, and how broken it is.

it's a pretty underhanded move to announce T2 BPOs will be done away with, any length of time before the change is made. as they devalue due to the announcement, the fair compensation is reduced. I think a fair compensation would be a snapshot of their values prior to the announcement, in BPCs or liquid ISK.

that said, I don't think they need to go anywhere. their viability as a production option is zero for anyone who bought them, and people who were the original lottery owners should continue to realize their benefit.

In fact I think it would be a shame to remove T2 BPOs. like any other rare item, they should continue to be used, or traded, or collected.

don't touch the T2 BPOs, they have guardian-vexor status.

edit: OR... bring the lottery back.

why did lotteries stop anyway? i'm thinking they could have avoided this situation by letting them continue.

With the changes to POS'es and BPOs having to be in the POS I know my cost just went up since I will then (if I continue to use the BPO) use stations for manufacturing. With that in mind, I there's even less advantage over inventors that already run 11 jobs simultaneously over my 1 job.

tbh the ROI on the BPOs are years, most inventors (and ultimately going producer) are thinking short term, not 5+ years (from the views I've gotten anyway) which makes the BPOs even less of a threat.

I get CCP's reason to remove it, but ultimately feel that the reasons for players wanting them removed comes down to jealousy (but yes I agree, the lottery system was pretty **** to begin with).

I would vote for them to stay because of two main reasons, they are a part of the EVE history, one that may have been unfair, but still represent an era that kinda made pilots a huge power having one (or more) - then getting shafted by new and aggressive inventors cornering markets, and secondly I want them to stay because they fulfill a role of industrialists, the long-term planning industrialist that isn't looking at fast ISK, but rather speculating of good ROI over a years of time.

I can't say that I see many gamers around going into a game with a 5 year plan - except in EVE!

/c

Not sure if this is an honest post or a market manipulation, but the evidence will be clear in a day or two.

I say, set the T2 BPOs to -200% time efficiency (unimproveable) as a first nerf. They'll still be profitable to own. Invention will offer better ISK per production line hour, but T2 BPOs will offer better margins and returns per player minute spent managing jobs.

Then in the future, replace the BPOs with 10 BPCs that are +10% material efficiency and +20% time efficiency ('perfect'), each with enough runs for one month's production (rounded up).

plz