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The Ultimate Solution to the T2 BPO Problem Announced by CCP

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Sturmwolke
#21 - 2014-05-03 16:02:59 UTC
Get Greyscale to put it in writing, then I'll believe it :D (yeah I thought I was hearing things during the industry panel)
Some Fanfest stuffs are just lip service.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#22 - 2014-05-03 16:03:15 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:


Can they decide this about ships, for example? Suppose Jump Freighters get disappeared next week. Compensation? Skillpoints, isk, both, or nothing?



Now that would make losec way more interesting.


Sure would. Trade routes would become a thing in places besides highsec again.

There's as much of an argument to be made that Jump Freighters are bad for the game, as there is for T2 BPOs.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#23 - 2014-05-03 16:04:46 UTC
I guess its time for all BPO T2 owners to start copying like there is no tomorrow :P copier machine is this way >>>> GOGOGO!
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#24 - 2014-05-03 16:05:47 UTC
What I want to know is why a member of the goon economic warfare team is creating this thread at all.

What does he have to gain by it?
Trolling for tears?
Actually curious about the opinions of others after years of gloatingly stating "your opinion means nothing".

This entire post is completely out of character, and I am curious why it was created.
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-05-03 16:07:02 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
What I want to know is why a member of the goon economic warfare team is creating this thread at all.

What does he have to gain by it?
Trolling for tears?
Actually curious about the opinions of others after years of gloatingly stating "your opinion means nothing".

This entire post is completely out of character, and I am curious why it was created.


When you can figure that out you are no longer shameful.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#26 - 2014-05-03 16:13:02 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
What I want to know is why a member of the goon economic warfare team is creating this thread at all.

What does he have to gain by it?
Trolling for tears?
Actually curious about the opinions of others after years of gloatingly stating "your opinion means nothing".

This entire post is completely out of character, and I am curious why it was created.

generating a discussion on an interesting subject not reason enough for you? it is for me.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#27 - 2014-05-03 16:30:16 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
What I want to know is why a member of the goon economic warfare team is creating this thread at all.

What does he have to gain by it?
Trolling for tears?
Actually curious about the opinions of others after years of gloatingly stating "your opinion means nothing".

This entire post is completely out of character, and I am curious why it was created.


Not all Goons are created equal.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Kirsi Kirjasto
Aggressive Structural Steel Expediting Services
#28 - 2014-05-03 16:40:01 UTC
Solutions are good.
Ultimate Solutions sind besser.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#29 - 2014-05-03 16:40:28 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:


[edit: Also. "Item being deleted by the devs" is not a risk to be taken into account when playing this game. Being nerfed, yes. Being blow up or stolen? Hells yes. But not straight up deletion from the game.


Happened before.

Collectible stuff has just been recycled.



This. You have to assume that not only your fellow players will blow you up, but that CCP will simply delete everything you own without compensation at any time.
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#30 - 2014-05-03 16:47:36 UTC
There is no T2 BPO problem. No, I don't have one.

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I invented Tiericide
Zenos Ebeth
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2014-05-03 16:59:18 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Until its in the patch notes of a patch or expansion it's not real.


That's problably what all the t2 bpo owners are telling themselves right now Lol.

Bad posts are not welcome on these forums.  -CCP Falcon
mkint
#32 - 2014-05-03 17:01:41 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
What I want to know is why a member of the goon economic warfare team is creating this thread at all.

What does he have to gain by it?
Trolling for tears?
Actually curious about the opinions of others after years of gloatingly stating "your opinion means nothing".

This entire post is completely out of character, and I am curious why it was created.


Not all Goons are created equal.

Correct. Some are even more awful than others.

The tricky part of this is balancing where a refund might mean there's no affect on the big picture (i.e. a BPC refund of the same value would mean that 7-10 years for the open market to balance out) versus straight up deleting assets and value from EVE. I don't know if there is a good solution, but I do know they are a broken factor of the game.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
Dramaticus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-05-03 17:52:13 UTC
About 6 months worth of BPC time is more than fair

The 'do-nothing' member of the GoonSwarm Economic Warfare Cabal

The edge is REALLY hard to see at times but it DOES exist and in this case we were looking at a situation where a new feature created for all of our customers was being virtually curbstomped by five of them
Regan Rotineque
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-05-03 18:12:36 UTC
Thank you CCP - for finally recognizing that this needed to be corrected.
BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#35 - 2014-05-03 18:19:30 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
The Ultimate Solution to the T2 BPO Problem Announced by CCP


You know who else had an ultimate solution?

I'll be surprised if this happens any time soon. They'll get nerfed before they disappear. I have yet to hear any valid reason these are a problem (except for jealousy) since invention was introduced.


That was the Final Solution
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#36 - 2014-05-03 18:26:33 UTC
BadAssMcKill wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
The Ultimate Solution to the T2 BPO Problem Announced by CCP


You know who else had an ultimate solution?

I'll be surprised if this happens any time soon. They'll get nerfed before they disappear. I have yet to hear any valid reason these are a problem (except for jealousy) since invention was introduced.


That was the Final Solution


I loved that song.

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
E Thatcher
Perkone
Caldari State
#37 - 2014-05-03 18:27:35 UTC
They could just adjust efficiences similar to the refine changes. Caused by smudged and worn originals. Old prints often cause more mistakes and waste.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#38 - 2014-05-03 18:30:46 UTC
Wasn't it just a week ago that someone posted about T2 BPOs and the forum consensus was that he was just jelly and to get over it because T2 BPOs are here forever?
Myxx
The Scope
#39 - 2014-05-03 18:43:49 UTC
My respect for Greyscale couldn't get any lower, so it simply remains unchanged.
Eyrun Mangeiri
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2014-05-03 18:57:53 UTC
T2 BPO gone = no more T2 stuff? Or how will it work?

I can see what you see not - vision milky then eyes rot. When you turn they will be gone - whispering their hidden song.