EVE General Discussion

You're forgetting that fake spaceships gameplay is real money to them. Let's say you're going to release a feature that will (reasonably or otherwise) panic a certain segment of your customer base, even though it's actual impact on them would be minor.

In this case I think it would be better from a customer retention view to disavow and then drop it on them. By the time that they reached the end of their subs, they'd have noticed that the world of high sec did or did not end. The result, in theory, would be fewer people unsubscribing.

What was this thread about again? Something IT something or EVE is Dying™?

and you're making up a ridiculous hypothetical based on guesswork and supposition that's completely contrary to ccp's attitude towards releasing information over the last ten years, bar a single incident, factional warfare, where a surprise patch was done to maintain fairness between factions.

there's absolutely nothing to indicate that what you're suggesting is happening today. the one piece of information we have is a developer confirming it's not going to happen

only dinsdale pirannha would try to conclude ytterbium is lying. or has access to insider information.

It is in the same vein as devblog feedback threads. When a devblog gets announced rebalancing a bunch of ships, you don't need a separate thread for each ship. Similarly, there is no need for a thread about every little sticking point in the keynote.

Additionally, this thread is already home to a good amount of constructive feedback, setting the right tone for a thread that a CCP dev wouls want to read and pay attention to, and a thread that continues to gather constructive feedback.

Obviously there is no posting ban on new threads about stuff going on at Fanfest. My designation of this as the central concern thread is just a warning that short threads on varied small concerns may get locked and redirected here. It's imperfect and ad-hoc, but I do believe my initiative will lead to an overall better effect than the alternative. For what it's worth, I sent a heads-up to my superiors that I'm doing this, so if they disagree it might well be reverted.

Anyway, discussion of moderation aside...

What thing? That capital class combat ships are coming to high sec?

I have to ask where the surprise high sec holocaust would be? You know, cap ships are not an I Win button, right? They're useful in certain very specific situations.

Let me ask, how long do you think it would take, even with cap ships, to beat down a station?



And I'm curious where certain posters are that should be in here posting if high sec is about to be wiped out. There are several goons I can think of that would be dancing with glee...

That everything is going to be destructible. There are many things in highsec that are, in theory, destructible, but the practical side of it prevents much serious PvP outside groups that would be, to put it mildly, larger than the average corp.

An actually tanked and manned Large POS, of example, is bluntly out of the reach of 'most' player corps to take out. A small alliance can even have a bad day against one. Attacking them is 'risk' outside the level of 'reward' to the attackers.

Currently, CCP seems to be trying to increase 'reward' but this is more or less doomed to failure. The increase is still too mall relative to the risk.

When we had this problem in the past (same exact problem as a matter of fact) they introduced dreadnoughts to the game.

Now we're looking at a situation where again POS are proliferating with no really viable counter to a 'death star'. The logical balance step is to introduce dreads into high sec.




Actually it exactly describes what happened when Freighters had rig slots on SISI.

I don't know why the concern or the hysteria.
1) Has been mentioned before. They mean player built stuff. v0v don't see a problem
2) Even if freighters can ship caps through highsec, they haven't suggested they can be used. Although it would we hilarious if they 'accidentally' allowed it for a week or something.
3) Really can't see any reason to whine about this. It's sensible. We get a lot of mini content patches anyway. This allows the devs to streamline their workflow and ensure stuff is added when its ready rather than rushing for deadlines.
4) Considering the numbers of Dust players, I really don't see this as a problem. Locking out Eve users who refuse to console was a problem. As mentioned earlier, give the Dusties some free Legion stuff on launch or pat them on the head and send them away. Not sure I care, or how much damage their whining can do.


This summarises your concerns more clearly. Basicallly, for you, regardless what CCP announce they are doing you'll greet it with suspicion and mistrust and then have hysterics across the forums. A lot of us posting here have been here a number of years, although for me personally not since 2003. And yeah, they have done some silly stuff. Who hasn't? They've also done some awesome stuff and seem to be on track to do more - but that's all down to perspective, and pursuading people with the attitude you've just mentioned is probably impossible, so why even attempt? If something really significant is announced that will have a negative impact, you can guarantee we'll whip out our pitchforks and run up and down chanting. So far, I haven't seen anything to justify that.

no. dreads where allowed to be build in highsec once...for a very short time (before carriers/supers). they could jump out, but not back in again (cyno block in highsec).

a few dreads survived from the days....they never jumped out and thus, are still there. when about to be moved, the community wanted them to be preserved, so the "rule" was implemented that no dread can engage in hostile activities in highsec or it will be moved out.

BUT, and here Cygnet is right, back then there where no POSes planned in 1.0 space. so...get ready for surprises.

i'm not seeing any examples. you're accusing a dev of lying, you're drawing conclusions from unclear statements, you're making up alarmist fairy stories.