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Stratios or Pilgrim for Cloaky PvP?
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Jade Lynkinstorm
Crawlers In Space
Intaki-Business Logistics Union
#21 - 2014-05-05 15:28:26 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Stratios.

The pilgrims terrible dps and extremelly limited target selection makes it quite inferior. I never really understood why people think its good.



Because it IS good.

Stratios is a new ship. The Pilgrim has performed unmatched so far and now its getting a strong competition.

The grim still performs above and beyond against anything amarrian *which is ironic*, and it is able to tackle or serve as an entry point through cyno while also being extremly good for *quick* scouting / recon on more hostile territory (correct me here if I am wrong, but the stratios / asteros still have a penalty on cloaking delay, dont they? 12 or 15seconds ), the grim does not.

It is a remarkably good ship, and great for soloing all around, it also costs half (havent noticed the recent prices, need an update on this) of a stratios.

Again, Stratios is amazing competition, but the grim is still a great ship with lots of uses.

Could it use an extra low/med? Sure *COUGH COUGH bluntly asking for unbalanced buffing *COUGH*, but it is a fun and -good- ship.
Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2014-05-05 16:40:55 UTC
A recon with **** EHP and unbonused neut range forcing it into hard tackle every time it takes an engagement is pretty categorically not good.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#23 - 2014-05-05 20:45:35 UTC
What kind of EHP wouldn't be considered sh!t for recon?

That is serious question because I wonder about getting pilgrim for lowsec solo lulzies and I don't have experience with t2 cruisers. Fit I put together has 32k EHP (buffer fit) and 320 dps from medium drones with my skills, doesn't seem very fragile to me although it is definitely not a level of dps you can get out of much cheaper t1 drone cruisers.

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Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-05-05 21:59:44 UTC
One minor note: while the Stratios can jump through a black ops bridge, it can't mount a covert cyno generator (I tested with a character that can sit in a Stratios and has CFT V). For solo combat, that shouldn't be a concern, but it means the Stratios can't act as advance scout and cyno for a blops drop.

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt
Tabs27
Notec Corporation Consolidated
#25 - 2014-05-06 09:48:50 UTC
Thanks everyone!

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Shpenat
Ironman Inc.
Transgress
#26 - 2014-05-06 15:10:33 UTC
For me it would boil down to what targets would I be looking for.

Cruiser and below -> pilgrim

Cruiser and above -> strations
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2014-05-06 15:14:32 UTC
I love the Stratios... can take on more i would think

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Torothin
Crimson Dawn Enterprises
#28 - 2014-05-06 15:58:41 UTC
Food for thought:

The Pilgrim's main downfall is it's lack of DPS. You will tackle someone and start pounding on him just to find help arriving 30-45 seconds later and it is bye bye Pilgrim. Go with the Stratios. The lack of dps really hurts the Pilgrim.
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