These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

CSM Panel - Fanfest 2014 Stream ... Waste of an Hour

First post
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#61 - 2014-05-02 14:18:24 UTC
The CSM presentation has always been an ego-masturbation circle-jerk for the folks on stage and the sheep in the audience that put them there.

I learned after the first fanfest I attended that this is the best time for a beer/bathroom break. Nothing or benefit or interest comes from that presentation.

While I'm sure the CSM has benefit for the game, this is a pointless use of fanfest resources.

Dum Spiro Spero
Barton Breau
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2014-05-02 14:35:26 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Fanfest is a holiday. You've had about a thousand hours of otherwise unpaid work from me; what more do you think I owe you?


I should have used "us senator" instead of "unpayed pr person" in my previous post.
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
#63 - 2014-05-02 14:44:50 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Buhhdust Princess wrote:
So, anyone else feeling like that CSM panel has just said

1. CSM thinks they are important
2. CSM has been told by CCP they are important
3. CSM is important
4. CSM does things that are important.

Seriously, I listened to the stream expecting some sort of intelligent conversation about in-depth details.. Why none of this cee cee pee?

-Buhhd


No you pretty much summed it up

Luckily, even if the whole thing is a huge practical joke that ccp pull for the sheer pleasure of spending money, all you're out is 5 minutes a year to click a few names on a webpage.


I often feel like my sense of humour is black and maybe even sick. But then after I read what Malcanis says I'm not so sure my sense of humour is that black.

" They're gonna feel pretty stupid when they find out. " Rick. " Find out what ? " Abraham. " They're screwing with the wrong people. " Rick. Season four.   ' The Walking Dead. ' .
Hoshi Sorano
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2014-05-02 18:25:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Hoshi Sorano
Malcanis wrote:
Buhhdust Princess wrote:
So, anyone else feeling like that CSM panel has just said

1. CSM thinks they are important
2. CSM has been told by CCP they are important
3. CSM is important
4. CSM does things that are important.

Seriously, I listened to the stream expecting some sort of intelligent conversation about in-depth details.. Why none of this cee cee pee?

-Buhhd


No you pretty much summed it up

Luckily, even if the whole thing is a huge practical joke that ccp pull for the sheer pleasure of spending money, all you're out is 5 minutes a year to click a few names on a webpage.


Some of us actually spend a bit more time than that researching and getting to know exactly whose names we're clicking on (which is exactly why you've never received a vote from me); but I'm glad to see that you take your responsibilities so seriously.

Malcanis wrote:
Fanfest is a holiday. You've had about a thousand hours of otherwise unpaid work from me; what more do you think I owe you?


By all means, enjoy the rest of your fanfest. But when you're participating in the CSM panel, you are once again acting as an elected representative, and need to be out of "vacation mode" and actually doing something worthwhile. Yes, the "job" is unpaid, but it's the job you volunteered for, campaigned for, and accepted. As such, we expect you to fulfill it to the very end; not slack off in your final duties.
Vyl Vit
#65 - 2014-05-02 18:28:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Vyl Vit
OMG!! CSMs on "TV"??? WOW! Here I was pounding my toes with a ball peen hammer and I could have seen THAT??
I tell yah. Poor advertising has its costs. Imagine missing the CSMs on TV. *heavy sigh* I'm beside myself.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
Lost Hamster
Hamster Holding Corp
#66 - 2014-05-02 18:38:36 UTC
Why are you surprised? CSM panel is always the most boring hour in the fanfest.
Serene Repose
#67 - 2014-05-02 19:15:05 UTC
Waste of an hour? Hey. How else to start the waste of a YEAR?

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
#68 - 2014-05-03 20:38:19 UTC
Lost Hamster wrote:
Why are you surprised? CSM panel is always the most boring hour in the fanfest.


Exactly why I'm posting! they go on about being important, and we have to sit and watch them chat complete bollocks on comms. shame, as this has the potential to be genuinely interesting!
Dave Stark
#69 - 2014-05-03 20:42:35 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Folk like to moan about the CSM, but if CCP did away with the CSM, I would suggest that there would be a lot of folk complaining that we no longer had any player representation.

Don't like 'em or think they are useless?

Don't vote.


considering literally every change is put up in a sticky on F&I, i'd argue there's no need for a group of 14 people to speak for us; we can do it ourselves now ccp have decided to sticky literally every upcoming change.
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#70 - 2014-05-03 22:16:41 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Folk like to moan about the CSM, but if CCP did away with the CSM, I would suggest that there would be a lot of folk complaining that we no longer had any player representation.

Don't like 'em or think they are useless?

Don't vote.


I don't vote. Spaceship politicians are still politicians, cannot trust the lot. Blink