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The Federation vs The Amarr Empire
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Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#1 - 2014-04-30 21:28:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Deen Wispa
Best of the Amarr Militia vs Best of the Gallente. We've both wiped out our respective opposition. We're both bored. It only makes sense for us to go head to head. Your April 27th roam into Gallente space gave a glimpse of what both sides can field. (We can both field HAC-level doctrines, albeit kitchen sink at times) When is this dream match going to occur on a nightly basis? When will you all move up here?

That joint fleet was a combination of In Exile, Winmatar, and Vitoc; supposedly the best that Amarr has to offer. We want to see more!

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#2 - 2014-04-30 22:59:09 UTC
I am glad to see 'Operation Content Removal' is working so well that the Gallente are resorting to this.



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Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#3 - 2014-04-30 23:31:18 UTC
This would have been interesting to see back in 2009 when both militia's were at their true hight and not a meer shadow of what they are now. And from what i remember back then the amarr did frequently fight the gals. it was pretty funny seeing the pure domi fleet (gals) fighting the pure abaddon fleet (amarr)

but now both militia's are so drastically different this just wouldnt be intresting. if its gonna come to large scale hac fleets there is no doubt in my mind that your side would easily crush because gals have way more pilots to grab from, why just one of your home systems has regularly 40-60 people online. i think our warzone has like 40-60 people doing anything.

Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro
Capitol One
Blue Canary
Watch This
#4 - 2014-05-01 00:13:14 UTC
You can do it!

Amarr victor o7o7
Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-05-01 00:54:06 UTC
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
... why just one of your home systems has regularly 40-60 people online. i think our warzone has like 40-60 people doing anything.


Which home system is this? Mine is usually full of squids, waffles and booster alts.

spaceship, Spaceship, SPACESHIP!
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#6 - 2014-05-01 02:15:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Deen Wispa
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
This would have been interesting to see back in 2009 when both militia's were at their true hight and not a meer shadow of what they are now. And from what i remember back then the amarr did frequently fight the gals. it was pretty funny seeing the pure domi fleet (gals) fighting the pure abaddon fleet (amarr)

but now both militia's are so drastically different this just wouldnt be intresting. if its gonna come to large scale hac fleets there is no doubt in my mind that your side would easily crush because gals have way more pilots to grab from, why just one of your home systems has regularly 40-60 people online. i think our warzone has like 40-60 people doing anything.


We're no where near the numbers you think especially in the age of attrition warfare where some people can't get out of a meta fit frigate. Most of us are scattered across numerous home systems and a 40 man fleet isn't something we're capable of. I'd say 10-20 hac fleet is doable. 15-30 t1 cruisers is doable on weekends.

Dream doctrine fleet fights;

VNIs vs Aug Navies
Ishtars vs Sacs
Sentry Domis vs Apocs

Get those station spinners out of Egg and get DCM spewing his usual ******** smack up here. JUSTK will pay the JF bill for you guys to move to Heyd :) I wanna see what the "best of Amarr" has to offer.

Let's do this

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#7 - 2014-05-01 02:27:06 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
This would have been interesting to see back in 2009 when both militia's were at their true hight and not a meer shadow of what they are now. And from what i remember back then the amarr did frequently fight the gals. it was pretty funny seeing the pure domi fleet (gals) fighting the pure abaddon fleet (amarr)

but now both militia's are so drastically different this just wouldnt be intresting. if its gonna come to large scale hac fleets there is no doubt in my mind that your side would easily crush because gals have way more pilots to grab from, why just one of your home systems has regularly 40-60 people online. i think our warzone has like 40-60 people doing anything.


We're no where near the numbers you think especially in the age of attrition warfare where some people can't get out of a meta fit frigate. Most of us are scattered across numerous home systems and a 40 man fleet isn't something we're capable of. I'd say 10-20 hac fleet is doable. 15-30 t1 cruisers is doable on weekends.

Dream doctrine fleet fights;

VNIs vs Aug Navies
Ishtars vs Sacs
Sentry Domis vs Apocs

Get those station spinners out of Egg and get DCM spewing his usual ******** smack up here. JUSTK will pay the JF bill for you guys to move to Heyd :) I wanna see what the "best of Amarr" has to offer.

Let's do this

im afraid team amarrica is on a permanent break as far as FW goes. We have had our fill. due to many RL issues among the leadership and many getting PO'ed seeing ccp not willing to fix basic FW crap, any scale operations in the future are pretty much over for us.

We were contemplating heading up to cal/gal space, but in the end it boiled down to RL interfering with most of the leadership.

Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#8 - 2014-05-01 18:04:24 UTC
I guess we will have to content ourselves with neutrals, pirates, and the occassional squid gangs. Damn, I better store up some clone tags.
Plato Forko
123 Fake Street
#9 - 2014-05-01 19:42:44 UTC
well we don't need to hear about it, just do it
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#10 - 2014-05-01 20:43:57 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
Best of the Amarr Militia vs Best of the Gallente. We've both wiped out our respective opposition. We're both bored. It only makes sense for us to go head to head. Your April 27th roam into Gallente space gave a glimpse of what both sides can field. (We can both field HAC-level doctrines, albeit kitchen sink at times) When is this dream match going to occur on a nightly basis? When will you all move up here?

That joint fleet was a combination of In Exile, Winmatar, and Vitoc; supposedly the best that Amarr has to offer. We want to see more!


sadly fw is not about biggest fleets and biggest ships. fw is about farmers and farmers decide which side is winning.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#11 - 2014-05-01 20:58:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Bad Messenger wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
Best of the Amarr Militia vs Best of the Gallente. We've both wiped out our respective opposition. We're both bored. It only makes sense for us to go head to head. Your April 27th roam into Gallente space gave a glimpse of what both sides can field. (We can both field HAC-level doctrines, albeit kitchen sink at times) When is this dream match going to occur on a nightly basis? When will you all move up here?

That joint fleet was a combination of In Exile, Winmatar, and Vitoc; supposedly the best that Amarr has to offer. We want to see more!


sadly fw is not about biggest fleets and biggest ships. fw is about farmers and farmers decide which side is winning.


Sadly people think that controlling occupancy is winning FW, rather than the fights and content it generates.
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#12 - 2014-05-01 21:10:11 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
Best of the Amarr Militia vs Best of the Gallente. We've both wiped out our respective opposition. We're both bored. It only makes sense for us to go head to head. Your April 27th roam into Gallente space gave a glimpse of what both sides can field. (We can both field HAC-level doctrines, albeit kitchen sink at times) When is this dream match going to occur on a nightly basis? When will you all move up here?

That joint fleet was a combination of In Exile, Winmatar, and Vitoc; supposedly the best that Amarr has to offer. We want to see more!


sadly fw is not about biggest fleets and biggest ships. fw is about farmers and farmers decide which side is winning.


Sadly people think that controlling occupancy is winning FW, rather than the fights and content it generates.


why to fight fights that has no real meaning on anything. No wonder you have no opposition because the big fights are not the thing in fw.

in the past fw there has been several entities who had power full fleet who could engage and win almost anything, sadly those have no use in fw so they moved on, maybe it is time for you to move on too...
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#13 - 2014-05-01 21:25:29 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
Best of the Amarr Militia vs Best of the Gallente. We've both wiped out our respective opposition. We're both bored. It only makes sense for us to go head to head. Your April 27th roam into Gallente space gave a glimpse of what both sides can field. (We can both field HAC-level doctrines, albeit kitchen sink at times) When is this dream match going to occur on a nightly basis? When will you all move up here?

That joint fleet was a combination of In Exile, Winmatar, and Vitoc; supposedly the best that Amarr has to offer. We want to see more!


sadly fw is not about biggest fleets and biggest ships. fw is about farmers and farmers decide which side is winning.


Sadly people think that controlling occupancy is winning FW, rather than the fights and content it generates.


So you don't think winning the occupancy war should be a primary content driver. Ok fine.

It seems like people are "bored" and turning to the forums to try to arrange fights with a militia on the other side of new eden. Is this considered fw "fights and content" we should all be so thrilled about?

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#14 - 2014-05-01 21:40:44 UTC
Cearain wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
Best of the Amarr Militia vs Best of the Gallente. We've both wiped out our respective opposition. We're both bored. It only makes sense for us to go head to head. Your April 27th roam into Gallente space gave a glimpse of what both sides can field. (We can both field HAC-level doctrines, albeit kitchen sink at times) When is this dream match going to occur on a nightly basis? When will you all move up here?

That joint fleet was a combination of In Exile, Winmatar, and Vitoc; supposedly the best that Amarr has to offer. We want to see more!


sadly fw is not about biggest fleets and biggest ships. fw is about farmers and farmers decide which side is winning.


Sadly people think that controlling occupancy is winning FW, rather than the fights and content it generates.


So you don't think winning the occupancy war should be a primary content driver. Ok fine.

It seems like people are "bored" and turning to the forums to try to arrange fights with a militia on the other side of new eden. Is this considered fw "fights and content" we should all be so thrilled about?


this is how fw was at the beginning when there was no special rewards from anything, but then CCP turned FW to isk farm and now we have current Farm Wars edition. Best farmer will win until isk tide turns and other side makes better isk.

To find any other meaning for fw is just same than example RvB but saying it is goal in EVE is just your own goal not for all.
Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#15 - 2014-05-01 21:58:44 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
Best of the Amarr Militia vs Best of the Gallente. We've both wiped out our respective opposition. We're both bored. It only makes sense for us to go head to head. Your April 27th roam into Gallente space gave a glimpse of what both sides can field. (We can both field HAC-level doctrines, albeit kitchen sink at times) When is this dream match going to occur on a nightly basis? When will you all move up here?

That joint fleet was a combination of In Exile, Winmatar, and Vitoc; supposedly the best that Amarr has to offer. We want to see more!


sadly fw is not about biggest fleets and biggest ships. fw is about farmers and farmers decide which side is winning.


Sadly people think that controlling occupancy is winning FW, rather than the fights and content it generates.

controlling occupancy is winning FW.

Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-05-01 22:03:40 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
Best of the Amarr Militia vs Best of the Gallente. We've both wiped out our respective opposition. We're both bored. It only makes sense for us to go head to head. Your April 27th roam into Gallente space gave a glimpse of what both sides can field. (We can both field HAC-level doctrines, albeit kitchen sink at times) When is this dream match going to occur on a nightly basis? When will you all move up here?

That joint fleet was a combination of In Exile, Winmatar, and Vitoc; supposedly the best that Amarr has to offer. We want to see more!


sadly fw is not about biggest fleets and biggest ships. fw is about farmers and farmers decide which side is winning.


Sadly people think that controlling occupancy is winning FW, rather than the fights and content it generates.

sadly my LP reward for killing FW enemies depends of occupancy levels => FW farmers affect my rewards

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#17 - 2014-05-01 22:42:04 UTC
Well IMO occupancy is what we are fighting for. The design intent is clear based on how rewards are given. The fact that everyone tends to ignore occupancy and think its somehow irrelevant, shows something is fundamentally off.

That's not to say that fw isn't great in other respects. It is. If people want to arrange fights from time to time its fine, and not necessarily proof anything is broken. But I don't think we should pretend that everything is working as intended either.

It's quite easy to have other things in real life take a priority over faction war.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Cromwell Savage
The Screaming Seagulls
#18 - 2014-05-01 22:48:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Cromwell Savage
Flyinghotpocket wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Bad Messenger wrote:
Deen Wispa wrote:
Best of the Amarr Militia vs Best of the Gallente. We've both wiped out our respective opposition. We're both bored. It only makes sense for us to go head to head. Your April 27th roam into Gallente space gave a glimpse of what both sides can field. (We can both field HAC-level doctrines, albeit kitchen sink at times) When is this dream match going to occur on a nightly basis? When will you all move up here?

That joint fleet was a combination of In Exile, Winmatar, and Vitoc; supposedly the best that Amarr has to offer. We want to see more!


sadly fw is not about biggest fleets and biggest ships. fw is about farmers and farmers decide which side is winning.


Sadly people think that controlling occupancy is winning FW, rather than the fights and content it generates.

controlling occupancy is winning FW.


Not quite...controlling home systems is 'winning' FW...if you can even call it that...

Who gives a rats ass about non-station systems or other systems that do not matter. The only system that really matters is the one you call home. The rest is Farmville garbage.

This douchery of occupancy is what is wrong in the first place...
Ginger Barbarella
#19 - 2014-05-01 23:48:50 UTC
mmm... time to fire up the farming alts again. Twisted

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#20 - 2014-05-01 23:59:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Bad Messenger wrote:
Bitterness


I get fights all the time. Fun still seems to be available. The old faction war died before any changes were made, no point shouting its virtues.

Cearain wrote:
Mal adjustment


No, i think content should be the primary content. As in flying ships, not what some faction window says. Fights are what were fighting for.

Flyinghotpocket wrote:
Roleplaying


If you like lol. Sounds kinda silly.

March rabbit wrote:
I need to farm


Your time will come and come again, that is the beauty of the current system.
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