Crime & Punishment

Thank you Jack for sharing your thoughts , I am neither a child, being 62 years young, nor inexperienced, as I have played, and studied hundreds of games including most of the space sims ever created and played MMOS for all the years they have been around. I do not need your advice sorry, and it is not applicable to me in any case thanks. I work to support decency and fair play and respect and dignity in games of all kinds.

Words cannot shame or bully me which Is apparently what some of the posts in this thread seem to be about. I am comfortable in any game community and come and go as I please following and obeying and asking for the rules to be enforced when they are not followed by others. That is what makes a game fun and safe. Without that there is chaos, hate and rancor. I am NOT the one trolling, I was and am asking for saftey, pure and simple. I cannot share the details of the abusive encounter in the chat for privacy reasons and I had expected and assumed I would be trusted as to the nature of my concerns, I have no need or desire for notice, and that was never my intent in creating this thread. In some ways I regret doing it, but once I saw the direction of this I decided it might help others who might need courage to report bullying, abuse and violation of the EULA.

thank you again for sharing.



I am afraid that this is not my feeling about games and life, games can and do affect and influence people for real and it is a chance to teach fair play and decency and respect. ;)

wall of text aside, you have not explained your perverse, over done breasts on your avatar, which to some is much worse that saying curse words in chat. You are a confused 62 year old man if you do not see they hypocracy in that. Take your blind stabs at making people guilty of EULA violations and stuff them in your Depends Sanitary Undergarments.

P.S. you may want to look up in the beloved EULA, that you are not allowed to discuss petitions, or any CCP mod interactions in this public forum.
PPS: IBTL

Funny how you have the exact same posting style as a certain other person who has been making posts about this topic recently. On a side note, GM's will never tell you what action they take against another person.

To the OP:

1. You clearly didn't do your research for this game like a proper journalist. I am fully qualified to cast stones due to the fact that I AM a trained journalist. If you had done your research you would have started with researching the community in the forums before even purchasing the game. Had you done so, you might have noticed that even the forums are far more adult oriented and bit more harsh than your average MMO.

2. Going back to lack of research you chose the absolute worst place to post a complaint about harassment. This is the crime and punishment forum. This is the worst cesspool in EVE filled with the lowest scum and villains of all the EVE universe. I might also add that these people are PROUD to have the previously mentioned honors. You couldn't have made a worse decision than posting a complain about harassment in this sub forum except maybe deciding to cover yourself in blood and climb naked into a shark tank. There is no sympathy in this forum.

3. Your values mean nothing. The macro or micro society of any culture sets the norms. You are unfortunately what this community would call a a non-conformist. There is nothing wrong with staying true to your own values. The moment you attempt to change the norms of a society or culture than you thrust yourself into, you become an ethnocentrist and many here would take offense to that. Your values are not superior to the cultural norms establish in EVE, merely different.

4. The ERSB doesn't care one bit about the behavior of a community of people within a game. I'm tempted to question the idea that you might actually be a professional journalist if you think the ERSB is going to change the rating of a game based on the behavior of it's community rather than the content of the game itself.

5. You had one bad experience. You ran to the absolute worst forum to complain about it and then you are shocked when people jeer at you like a village idiot. It reminds me of a Prep school child being thrown into a lower class neighborhood and being shocked when they are not treated like royalty.

6. You can NOT impose your believes and values on others. You are supposed to adapt to the culture you want to be a part of or don't take part at all.


I don't say all this to be mean to you. No doubt you will take it that way. I just hit you with a strong dose of reality. Sorry if my words offend you.

I personally hope you will read this and continue playing EVE. I hope you will skill up, find a good group to play with, and move on to bigger and better things without crying everytime someone is mean and station camps you. To be honest, people in EVE do far more screwed up stuff than say some mean words now and again. Research the Black hand or BOB if you don't believe me.

Likely you will never read these words but at least I can say I tried to salvage another poor unfortunately leaf eating creature and tried to turn him or her into a Carnivore.

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TLDR Version

OP attempted to barge into a unique culture like a drunk homeless man at a high society party and is shocked when it doesn't go well. OP needs to learn to adapt to the game culture or find another game.

62 years young?



TL:DR



Bitter, dried up, has been vents anger on the interwebs.

Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries. Now go away before I taunt you a second time.

Direct harassment over things such as race, sex, social status, orientation etc is NOT tolerated under the EULA and under CCP's rules and codes of conduct. To say that Eve has no standards of conduct and is a "disaster" waiting to happen, well Eve's been a disaster waiting to happen now for well over 10 years.

In that 10 years players have created a universe that is incredibly harsh, unforgiving, and above all challenging. Do not sit here and insult players and devs unless you can give us concrete proof as to such "harsh" talk in local. I assume as well as everyone else you are not familiar with Eve's rather brash and unforgiving nature.

As a person you claim to be in your 60's (which I very much doubt) because someone in their 60's would have enough wisdom and maturity to just filter out garbage instead of feeding people and giving them a response. Here's a tip: Don't say anything back.

Eve is not your friend. Players are not your friend. This isn't a Facebook game. This is a game based in treachery, cruelty, and a certain reality others games do not give you. Therefore either adapt or move on. Eve isn't for everyone. I suggest you realize that rather quickly before insulting the entire playerbase over a game you do not understand.

Had similar situations and reported them. Problem is CCP don't seem to want to enforce a lot of rules that they state in the EULA / Rules tho. The person who was abusing me constantly in game was making sexual remarks and such which quite frankly I would have thought would be a bannable offence for anyone, especially seeing as though EVE is rated at 12. I placed them on the ignore list in game so they started it on the forums, removing the mods edits of their posts.

But then there is the other type of person who goes around breaching every loop hole in the game to their advantage too, so it's not just the abuse side that CCP doesn't punish, people openly using game bugs to their advantage get away with it too (no matter how people many report them).

I have removed a rule breaking post.

The Rules:
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.

Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.

*sips his coffee while peering out the window to see a blue sky over shining dew clinging to the grass*

Griefer tears, best tears.

You can try to redefine these things as much as you like - CCP is still going to enforce their rules when you get called out for breaking them. Good luck though. You'll just have to keep dealing with horrible people like us. 7o

P.S. You need to go back to reddit and fix your reply. Someone did not win CSM - clearly someone had too much faith that their viewpoint is the majority one. I noticed the HS carebear won, though.

;)