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Coffee Rocks
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-04-30 02:36:28 UTC
Carnia Astrael wrote:
I had an unfortunate experience in chat today with rudeness crossing over the line to obscene insults and personal attacks. It appears the Mods will not enforce the rules..they gave an ambivilant response with no real reply. I will be moving on and leaving EVE most likely.

A game with no standards of conduct is not a game it is a disaster waiting to happen.


Come join Brave Collective. Vulgarity, bigotry, and personal attacks towards another person (even the war targets) will get you swift hammer from leadership, ban in comms, and/or ban from alliance. All circumstances are considered; we aren't unjust.

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Coffee Rocks
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-04-30 02:45:06 UTC
Carnia Astrael wrote:
Sorry to have raised this topic it appears this community does not on the majority recognize decorum or courtesy in a game. I will not be replying further.


The culture in EVE never used to be this bad (though, the forums are particularly bad, but that's true of all MMOs). CCP has chosen to take a hands-off approach to allow the collective player base to self-regulate. As you can see, this allows for some very ugly behavior.

Folks like the ones above claim it's "accepted in the sandbox" and "HTFU or GTFO" - consider what they say, but you'll find mostly a lot of garbage and fallacy (mostly, though, trolling for defense of their belief, even if wrong). They believe EVE is a place where they can completely attack other people without repercussion. Most of the time they ride the EULA/TOS line, sometimes they get away with it - and sometimes the GM's find they tip-toed over the line a tiny bit and they get banned.

Regardless, I'm sorry to see that you won't be joining. We could use more people of decency. After all, though they claim this is a galaxy for villains, I tend to see the vast majority are angels out there.

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Froggy Storm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#23 - 2014-04-30 02:51:25 UTC
Op sees no need to reply further yet continues to reply with (arguably) offencive threats on the community as a whole.

Op can you not see the irony in dictating your personal views and standards onto another group? One which clearly you have no direct ties to or understanding of.

Please keep "your society" to yourself and your crusade out of eve. Hello kitty island is over there and has (I assume) moderators more to your liking.

2/10 for entitlement tears and for replying after a "I quit" post.
Coffee Rocks
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-04-30 03:07:12 UTC
Froggy Storm wrote:
Op sees no need to reply further yet continues to reply with (arguably) offencive threats on the community as a whole.

Op can you not see the irony in dictating your personal views and standards onto another group? One which clearly you have no direct ties to or understanding of.

Please keep "your society" to yourself and your crusade out of eve. Hello kitty island is over there and has (I assume) moderators more to your liking.

2/10 for entitlement tears and for replying after a "I quit" post.


0/10 bad troll. No tears 4 u.

Treating others respectfully isn't "a crusade in EVE". Not doing so is called "one less paying sub in EVE".

Congrats?

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Django Askulf
Black Rebel Death Squad
#25 - 2014-04-30 03:11:52 UTC
Cant please everyone.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-04-30 03:17:04 UTC
Carnia Astrael wrote:
Sorry to see such immaturity among the players and I am quite sad to see the decay in our society that cannot support basic courtesy. I am not quitting in disgust, i am researching the game and fear it will not have a good review. I plan to request ESRB change EVE's status to a more restricted one to protect some standards of decency. If the Mods themselves cannot see the need for this, then the entire game is indeed corrupt. Have fun. You can continue this discussion without me for I dont see any sign that any of you have any understanding of the reasons for courteous behaviour in a game.


1) Op says he is a software developer
2) Op is not familiar with "Online interaction is not rated" tagline on every single multiplayer game.

Fail.

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Michael Ruckert
Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando
#27 - 2014-04-30 06:18:20 UTC
OP, stop repeating yourself. Saying you are leaving once is enough. Depart. Thank you.

"No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier
Pubbie Spy
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-04-30 07:07:26 UTC
Carnia Astrael wrote:
Sorry to see such immaturity among the players and I am quite sad to see the decay in our society that cannot support basic courtesy. I am not quitting in disgust, i am researching the game and fear it will not have a good review. I plan to request ESRB change EVE's status to a more restricted one to protect some standards of decency. If the Mods themselves cannot see the need for this, then the entire game is indeed corrupt. Have fun. You can continue this discussion without me for I dont see any sign that any of you have any understanding of the reasons for courteous behaviour in a game.


Reasons such as?
Damon Messer
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2014-04-30 07:07:39 UTC
OP can i have your stuff?
Abrei-Kaii
Petrolinvest
#30 - 2014-04-30 07:22:20 UTC
Your going about this all wrong. We all know that special agent ripard-teg is the only authority on 'cyber bullying' and 'harassment'. Next time get him to write a blog and start a threadnaught then you will get results.

That being said, Can I have your stuff?
Dilligafmofo
3WAYFOUNDATIONS
New Miner's Union
#31 - 2014-04-30 07:50:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Dilligafmofo
I call troll.

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Jack Lennox
Grove Street Families
#32 - 2014-04-30 09:36:12 UTC
So now that you're leaving can I have your stuff?

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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#33 - 2014-04-30 10:06:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Jint Hikaru
Carnia Astrael wrote:
Sorry to see such immaturity among the players and I am quite sad to see the decay in our society that cannot support basic courtesy. I am not quitting in disgust, i am researching the game and fear it will not have a good review. I plan to request ESRB change EVE's status to a more restricted one to protect some standards of decency. If the Mods themselves cannot see the need for this, then the entire game is indeed corrupt. Have fun. You can continue this discussion without me for I dont see any sign that any of you have any understanding of the reasons for courteous behaviour in a game.


Wow, some pretty thorough 'Reaserch' you've put in there... 3 days in noob corp. Totally enough to understand the whole community, report to the ESRB and do whatever 'Review' you are going to do.

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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#34 - 2014-04-30 10:16:42 UTC
Wanted to ask for your stuff but some beat me to it... :-( sad panda

On a side note: Just block the guy. Big smile
It happens a lot and your block list will grow steadily.
Or post some funny, yet classy meme like

Look at all the fucks I give...

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Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#35 - 2014-04-30 11:22:40 UTC
Carnia Astrael wrote:
Sorry to see such immaturity among the players and I am quite sad to see the decay in our society that cannot support basic courtesy. I am not quitting in disgust, i am researching the game and fear it will not have a good review. I plan to request ESRB change EVE's status to a more restricted one to protect some standards of decency. If the Mods themselves cannot see the need for this, then the entire game is indeed corrupt. Have fun. You can continue this discussion without me for I dont see any sign that any of you have any understanding of the reasons for courteous behaviour in a game.


Your bio says Caldari but your galactic world-view smells like Amarr ... hmmm, stop drinking your own pod goo and relax a bit.


Thank me later :D
Precurseur
Inner Geek
#36 - 2014-04-30 12:17:50 UTC
Expected a ragepoast
Intended to troll but couldn't be bothered
Left half satisfied, half wanting more

@OP: HTFU Cool
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#37 - 2014-04-30 12:52:47 UTC
Precurseur wrote:
Expected a ragepoast
Intended to troll but couldn't be bothered
Left half satisfied, half wanting more

@OP: HTFU Cool


wow

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
Lola Shaboopie
FAPPINGLY DELICIOUS
#38 - 2014-04-30 12:54:47 UTC
Carnia Astrael wrote:
I had an unfortunate experience in chat today with rudeness crossing over the line to obscene insults and personal attacks. It appears the Mods will not enforce the rules..they gave an ambivilant response with no real reply. I will be moving on and leaving EVE most likely.

A game with no standards of conduct is not a game it is a disaster waiting to happen.


Bye bye guy who obviously had too much fun creating the typical avatar a 12 year old would make [giant breastages]
Can i haz ur stuf?
Lola Shaboopie
FAPPINGLY DELICIOUS
#39 - 2014-04-30 12:58:33 UTC
Carnia Astrael wrote:
I appreciate the kind responses, as for the ones that is less than that, yes they ARE my values and they ARE the values of society thank goodness. It is true that in the modern world of today such values of decency and respect are eroding in some areas, but I will Never surrender the field to the "let them do what they want" cop out. I have worked to maintain respect and decency in many on line games for i work in the field of game development at the highest level and i will continue to support such standards. I have not previously had a chance to study and research EVE and I will keep an open mind and heart but I will NOT surrender on the issue of decency in shared recreation and communication. In private chat that is just fine, and com's the same. But in a public chat window there should be standards and levels of respect, and to be a personal target of attacks from creeps is not something to be hoped for.

Thanks for the thoughts shared, I am not surprised to hear tolerance suggested, but I will NOT tolerate such behaviour if there is any way that speaking up can get it curbed.

Such a player should be reprimanded by a GM immediatly and banned if it repeats. If we do not support standards there will be none and chaos leads to entropy NOT freedom.

As for the use of HOTFU in a chat with me I do not appreciate such rude slang attacks, and I request that you never address me in a thread again or i will report you for Abuse. I will not tolerate such rude behaviour in print or in life thank you very much. I have no intention of Hurrying Up to Accepting rude and unkind comments in any form or format. thank you.



Hypocritical wall of text from a thin skinned nub with a giant teated blonde bimbo as an avatar.
Boobs ok, telling you to FO, is not?
Hlokk Skoggangur
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2014-04-30 13:06:50 UTC
Lola Shaboopie wrote:
Carnia Astrael wrote:
I had an unfortunate experience in chat today with rudeness crossing over the line to obscene insults and personal attacks. It appears the Mods will not enforce the rules..they gave an ambivilant response with no real reply. I will be moving on and leaving EVE most likely.

A game with no standards of conduct is not a game it is a disaster waiting to happen.


Bye bye guy who obviously had too much fun creating the typical avatar a 12 year old would make [giant breastages]
Can i haz ur stuf?


So I was not the only person who thought that when I saw their avatar. for a moment I thought I had slipped into an alternate reality where someone with an overly enthusiastic relationship with the 'chest' scale slider actually could try and claim the moral high ground without being mocked.

As for eve's community, both the good and bad, it all makes sense when you approach it as if all the others players are content. theme park mmorpgs use npcs for the bad guys or player support organizations. here it is the players, the good parts (random nice guys, training corps, ppl who help newbs) and the bad ( gankers, pirates, scams, etc). the threats to overcome and survive, and e characters who can help you do this are other people. not some npc standing in a field somewhere or a mob spawning in to drop a meaningless quest item #15478.