EVE General Discussion

Someone left an Apocalypse outside my noob station in Ryddinjorn. It was hell trying to find someone who had the skill to fly one and grab it for me. I got their Armageddon as a finder's fee.

That geddon was stored for almost four months before I finally lost it in glorious fashion to Sneaky Magik Inc.

The last 2 times a RL friend of mine started to play eve i send them to jita and asked them to search for scams and asked them to pount out how the scam works, for each scam i gave them a milion. After they got the message/got bored. i also contracted them a cruizer +fitting they deemed intresting with all the skill books needed to fly it.

I stil give them advice. One of them now advices me on wormhole matters.

On the brightside, you have a better attitude than many, funny sig and not a bad poster
Find other like-minded people and be bad together. It's hilarious.

There were only new characters when i started

I must say toug overalll then pople were more kind to each other , Eve as time went become harsh and harsher.

Can you imagine a time when shooting non-war characters in 0.0 /low sec was reckoned by majority as "evil"?:)

Absolutely and considering we run the most successful newbee program in the game I'm going to say its essential. Grinding is terrible, I'd say more about it but the forum filters will prevent it. These 'handouts' or whatever demonizing term you want to use for assistance to alleviate the grinding which makes the game more fun and provide a little starting framework for the social aspect of the game which is arguably the most fun part of it. You begin as a wide-eyed newbee who has no idea what's going on, is handed a bunch of ships and a lump of isk then told to go lead a bunch of your drunken comrades on a suicidal roam of enemy space. Its terrifying because you have no idea what's going or how to do anything but, you have a bunch of your soon to be friends in the back ground being reassuring and enjoying themselves so its okay that you just suicided 50 frigates into an enemy munin gang, you managed to kill two of them which is hilarious no matter which way you want to phrase it. You continue learning and progressing from that state until you are in the position of handing out free stuff to newbees, joining in their fleets and enjoying their fleets. Its a cycle that is lacking in other corporations/areas especially highsec. You could solve the highsec half of that by nerfing highsec but, the corporation half is a much harder issue to solve.

All I ever see in the highsec corporations I awox are absentee leadership or outright scorn for low SP players which makes me stay in your corporation all the longer just to twist the knife a bit more. Instead of encouraging their newbies to do anything worthwhile they do nothing to assist or foster an environment of hostility against them. Being unwelcoming for newbies has been historically shown to be a be a bad thing for the most recent example look at the failings exhibited by BRAVE once they decided to start focusing on nullsec more than newbies. Worse can happen as well, they could remain in NPC corporations and be exposed to the horrid filth inhabiting those channels then become incredibly risk averse. The bottom line is that treating your newbies well is part of being successful and having an enjoyable EVE experience.

A pirate once gave me 10 million ISK. Apart from that I had little help... except the collegues at work that were involved in high-end wormhole Alliances, who gave me very solid advice and explained a lot of mechanics to me.

Funny how I always 100% agree or disagree with Nariz's posts. In this case he is 100% right. Making ISK is not progression, and grind is the worst way to obtain currency. Sharing ISK is a small token of appreciation, sharing knowledge and experiences is what's truly important. By fending for yourself you get a good idea of the true value of ISK, but there's no reason to deny a little handout to get you into a PVP ship quicker. You may not get wiser about the economy but you certainly aren't getting any dumber, plus you might get valuable social & PVP experiences... far more important!

I installed eve, hauled stuff across highsec, ran missions, and felt miserable. Then i joined goons, my space money doubled on the first day, I exploded a lot in internet spaceships, and now I make other people's internet spaceships explode.

"Will come in time" - I've been hearing that for four months.

And I know its more reliant on my skill than my character's - that's the problem.

Anyway thank you though. I know you're trying to console me, but unfortunately when people say "well at least you're not X", I am X, and it just makes me feel worse. Thanks, because I am grateful, but - unless I AM good, I don't think I should feel good.

On the second day of my trial my then corp mate convinced me to start a new account under his 21 day trial give away thing. Not only did I get a week extra on my trial, he also offered me 50 million! Lasted me pretty long and I felt pretty rich already being able to afford a battecruiser.. Only months later did I know that he got a plex/game time for it, if only I knew I would of bargained for a lot better.

I received tons of money and ships and modules when I first started hanging out with other players socially. Still routinely get gifts and donations. I keep them all. Because this is eve.