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So what was the point of "Burn Jita?"

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RAIN Arthie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2014-04-29 17:38:04 UTC
It's all fun and games until CFC loses a ship. Then it's all boo hoo down in hooville.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#82 - 2014-04-29 17:40:12 UTC
RAIN Arthie wrote:
It's all fun and games until CFC loses a ship. Then it's all boo hoo down in hooville.


Well either they havent lost a ship yet or this is demonstratably false

You mean to a player right? Cos, y'know, CONCORD and stuff

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
RAIN Arthie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#83 - 2014-04-29 17:42:45 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
RAIN Arthie wrote:
It's all fun and games until CFC loses a ship. Then it's all boo hoo down in hooville.


Well either they havent lost a ship yet or this is demonstratably false

You mean to a player right? Cos, y'know, CONCORD and stuff


Talking about the big fight with titans and stuff last year. You know you may be in a council but you try so hard not to know stuff.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#84 - 2014-04-29 17:51:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
RAIN Arthie wrote:

Talking about the big fight with titans and stuff last year. You know you may be in a council but you try so hard not to know stuff.


By knowing stuff you are saying that there is not a difference of opinion, but self evident facts that CFC have been somewhat upset

But I am not sure what a fleet action a year ago has to do with Burn Jita (You know, the topic of conversation)

Also: Is this the face of Peace and Prosperity?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
RAIN Arthie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2014-04-29 17:53:57 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
RAIN Arthie wrote:

Talking about the big fight with titans and stuff last year. You know you may be in a council but you try so hard not to know stuff.


By knowing stuff you are saying that there is not a difference of opinion, but self evident facts that CFC have been somewhat upset

But I am not sure what a fleet action a year ago has to do with Burn Jita (You know, the topic of conversation)


Wasn't off topic at all, just commenting on other things on last page. Also be clear when you write, I do not speak riddle.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#86 - 2014-04-29 17:55:49 UTC
RAIN Arthie wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
RAIN Arthie wrote:

Talking about the big fight with titans and stuff last year. You know you may be in a council but you try so hard not to know stuff.


By knowing stuff you are saying that there is not a difference of opinion, but self evident facts that CFC have been somewhat upset

But I am not sure what a fleet action a year ago has to do with Burn Jita (You know, the topic of conversation)


Wasn't off topic at all, just commenting on other things on last page. Also be clear when you write, I do not speak riddle.


Please tell me the words that are giving you difficulty and Ill explain what they mean

And yes, a fleet action one year ago nowhere near Jita is somewhat off topic.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
RAIN Arthie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2014-04-29 18:20:30 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
RAIN Arthie wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
RAIN Arthie wrote:

Talking about the big fight with titans and stuff last year. You know you may be in a council but you try so hard not to know stuff.


By knowing stuff you are saying that there is not a difference of opinion, but self evident facts that CFC have been somewhat upset

But I am not sure what a fleet action a year ago has to do with Burn Jita (You know, the topic of conversation)


Wasn't off topic at all, just commenting on other things on last page. Also be clear when you write, I do not speak riddle.


Please tell me the words that are giving you difficulty and Ill explain what they mean

And yes, a fleet action one year ago nowhere near Jita is somewhat off topic.



I will, but first, let me take a selfie.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#88 - 2014-04-29 19:19:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
There was burn jita? Shocked


Was there anyone shooting the statue?

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#89 - 2014-04-29 19:35:59 UTC
I'm wondering if Jita was simply too small of a target.

Here's the reason:


For a long time now, even before the SoE ships and the boost in LP income from running SoE L4s, I was based in Osmon. It was more quiet back then. I ran mainly SoE missions when in highsec because it gave me better control over my standings with the empires. Running FIO missions for example does not play well with Caldari faction.

But back then, if I wanted something, I ended up having to go to Jita. That's 6 jumps away.


Frankly when goons announced they wanted to burn Jita again, I did not place my finger on it, but I had a "why bother" feeling, like if someone suggested it to me, I would say "what's the point of that?". But now I realize that this is coming from observations of the area from Osmon to Jita.

What I have noticed is that I don't have to go to Jita for everything. Last time I went shopping (and had buttered scones with tea) I actually bought some items without checking the system because when sorting for lowest price it was always Jita Jita Jita and I purchased some items and then went to Jita 4-4 expecting them to be there but they were in fact in Osmon in the Lai Dai station. What?


Because of this I wonder that if an organization wanted to really make a dent in things they would have to cover that area of the Forge region, from say the opposite of Jita from the direction to Osmon and Osmon on towards the adjacent systems, and not only gank freighters but mission runners too. In the latter case, affecting SoE LP creation could affect the market in ways that could benefit those who are properly positions and "gunboat market strategy" is perfectly a part of the game.

That plus the crimewatch mechanics could make things quite interesting and spread the love.

I hope the goons adapt and think of expanding in their future burns. They certainly have no shortage of people for it and I think a good time will be had by all. I regret not having enough time to go to Jita last week.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#90 - 2014-04-29 19:50:53 UTC
What's the point? That people in EVE pay no attention to what is going on around them. If I recall correctly it was blatantly advertised as to what was going to happen, when it was going to happen, whom it was going to happen to, and who was going to do it. Did anyone pay attention to the posts or blogs? No, they did not. What happened because of it? 500 billion + in destroyed ships,mods, etc. The tears are so delicious.

TL;DR: Pay more attention to the metagame.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#91 - 2014-04-29 20:13:30 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
What's the point? That people in EVE pay no attention to what is going on around them. If I recall correctly it was blatantly advertised as to what was going to happen, when it was going to happen, whom it was going to happen to, and who was going to do it. Did anyone pay attention to the posts or blogs? No, they did not. What happened because of it? 500 billion + in destroyed ships,mods, etc. The tears are so delicious.

TL;DR: Pay more attention to the metagame.


So much this

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#92 - 2014-04-29 20:17:32 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
No troll...asking seriously.

EDIT:

Where is the challenge?

they killed some ships and blew some modules - thus increased demand:
- miners will need to mine ore
- manufacturers need to make new ships and modules
- traders will have new toys to play with

they provided people with free targets:
- free riskless "pvp" for anyone interested
- free loot for those who fast enough (i got some part of it)
- free bounties for luckers (i got 10 mil from one guy from NO)

they provided something to talk about on forums, to write for bloggers, etc...

Quite a lot of good stuff i guess. All of it in expense of those who don't pay attention to environment and flies their freighters solo when people kill such things

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#93 - 2014-04-29 20:20:40 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
Kind'a shooting yourself in the foot for the lulz, no?

You don't do this?

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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#94 - 2014-04-29 20:21:19 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:


Also: Is this the face of Peace and Prosperity?


I hope so, but somehow doubt it. I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#95 - 2014-04-29 20:25:10 UTC
RAIN Arthie wrote:
I think a better idea would be to burn Goon Swarm. Have high sec fly on over and break stuff for a week then fly off. Would really spice things up I think.

fuuuuuu

you are offering me to leave high-sec? And what for? To blow some useless gooni? Shocked

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#96 - 2014-04-29 20:34:57 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
No troll...asking seriously.

EDIT:

Where is the challenge?


A little sabre rattling, a little amusement at the expense of others ... so none really.





People are risk averse.
People don't want challenge.
That's why there are corps, alliances and coalitions.
The greater the numbers, the less risk there is.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#97 - 2014-04-29 20:37:31 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:


Also: Is this the face of Peace and Prosperity?


I hope so, but somehow doubt it. I can't honestly believe that Peace and Prosperity has a face like a naughty sarcastic nun that's come to whip me with a ruler.


Now THAT is going in the sig, you naughty girl Lol

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#98 - 2014-04-29 21:40:00 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
No troll...asking seriously.

EDIT:

Where is the challenge?


The point of it was to provide entertainment for the gankers.

It's a pvp game that involves blowing up spaceships, people need to be entertained.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Steeldragon Ronin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#99 - 2014-04-29 22:50:21 UTC
Goons are comprised of 70% twelve yr. old nerds.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#100 - 2014-04-29 22:51:21 UTC
Steeldragon Ronin wrote:
Goons are comprised of 70% twelve yr. old nerds.


Thanks, NPC Corp alt!

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