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you don't know how irritating it is trying to fit the exact right proportion of minerals in a component assembly array to let you get a nice 100-run component job, you've got to move each mineral individually and it is a pain in the ass

please to be increasing the capacity of the component assembly array to get around that tia

It's not meant to replace intensive spreadsheet references. Mostly, it's used for quick estimations than anything in detail.
Having a reasonable base for rough estimations ingmae is very useful for many players out there. You run your spreadsheets after, out of game.

Of course it does, and you cannot expect wonders with a modem. But I don't have a modem and my connection is never fully utilized when I open the market or char windows. Neither the download bandwidth, nor the upload bandwidth; ping and package loss also don't show apparent issues.

As CCP Arrow asked for it, I'll add feedback even though I don't have anything earth shaking to add....

I do want to add voice to some things already asked for.

1. Some type of number separator for ease of reading.

2. The ability to see what stock will remain before starting the job. If you need 100 trit and you have it that is great. I would like to be able to see how much trit I will have left. Perhaps a tool tip where you could hover over to see remaining stock?

Overall I am very excited over the UI changes. This is the first update I have been looking forward to for the content of the update opposed to just the opportunities to exploit the market as the result of changes caused by an update.

This is also the first time I have ever desired to install the test server to see what is on the way.

Awesome job CCP. While eve should always be about spaceships, it's nice to see some attention shown to those who build them!

A quick question about the interface

Would there be an indicator of YOUR remaining production/science slots? i believe this will be very useful, but i'm missing it in the mock up.

Outside of that, pretty impressive, can't wait to put it in action. Can we get it before the actual expansion? It will save so many people so much pain.

So far i like the changes in the dev blog, but one of my personal main issues with the current mfg system remains.



Why is it so hard to allow stuff to be taken from another array/hangar at a POS? I mean requiring BPs and mats to be inside the correct array still forces us to be physically present at the POS every time we need to move stuff between arrays, which imho is totally unnecessary... Just allow source location to be selected amongst all legal arrays/hangars at the POS in question, same to output destination, and make the UI remember those selections.

A simple example how i imagine the "perfect" POS manufacturing setup:

1 source hangar or LSAA
X labs
Y arrays, distributed across different types (drones/eq,comp)

Now the user can link labs/arrays to source and destination storage (or use the default of the array/lab itself) so that for large enterprises it is possible to centralize input and output into one single hangar/storage, instead of the current hassle. And to be honest, being forced to move insane amounts of mats between dozens of arrays (which each has a laughable small storage space) is the reason that lead me to move all manufacturing besides rigs and drones into a station, not the click-fest of installing jobs.

Storage pooling and flexible input/output locations are at least as important as the reduction in clicks required for a single job!

Oh, and definitely apply the previously mentioned pre-filtering of all optional materials based on the BP in question. Since racial decryptors are tied to racial BPCs, it is utter rubbish to even allow them to be selected for "foreign" target BPCs. And make the UI remember the selected decryptor for a given BPC (based on runs).

I was about to post asking about chaining CSAAs like silos and reactors together to allow assembly arrays to pull minerals from larger storage structures.

I'm now a sad panda.

I second the request to dramatically increase the size of assembly arrays to make the mineral juggling less time consuming. Restrict the allowed contents to only BPs and minerals if you are concerned about possible storage abuses.

Being able to put the minerals for around 1/3 of a titan in it would be great a whole titan would be ideal.

Great. Just to give you a better number for only one product line: Month to date slightly more than 17,000 T2 Sentries built which needed 3,518 copies to be invented, 176 copy runs @ 20 copies each...

Then the remote skill is truly a waste now. Before it was used to use a BPO from station in a pos, now that that single thing is taken away it will be impossible to do this currently as you will physically have to be at the pos to deliver or our on build jobs as everything we pretty much do in a CAA requires the size to be much larger. Once you deliver jobs and overfill the array, you have to empty it before you can do everything else, so again, you have to be at the pos, so remote skill is freaking USELESS

What's the deal with CCP's obsession with removing labels from icons, and forcing a hover over to actually get useful information? Build requirements as icons is stupid. No matter how familiar you are with the icons themselves, it will never ever ever be as fast as a glance at a written name. It is absolutely impossible to tell at a glance the material requirements without hovering over 11 different icons one at a time. That's called "worse." Even the name of what's being produced is tucked away at the bottom of the window after 4 different completely irrelevant images. Graphics heavy does not make something automatically better, and when a meaningless picture is substituted for useful text, it's automatically worse.

Can I get a text-only version of this new UI? The icons obfuscate useful information rather than provide any.