EVE Information Portal

Looks like some very nice changes. Hard to tell until one actually gets to use it.

Just the fact that previous job information will be saved will be a huge improvement.

The ability to batch copy jobs and invention jobs would be a HUGE step forward and fundamentally fix the click fest problem that copy, invention and manufacturing is today. With what is see here you are putting a pretty band aid on the problem for small scale industrialists. I am not convinced based on what you have showed here is that you have fixed the issues when you do industry on an industrial scale. Think of it this way: How can I make the life easier of someone who builds several product lines of say thousands of identical T2 items (T2 Sentries for example) from scratch via invention a week? Does this really solve the issue?

Request for devs : please make all "numbers" (i.e http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66065/1/Blueprints_ShowInfo_Industry.png quantity here) readable !

not "2850000" but "2,850,000" or "2 850 000" just like when we have edited a price in an order and want to see it while changing focus.

Finally some awesome changes, totally love it! Big LIKE!!

Jercy's data is essential to most everyone who touches the spreadsheet side of EVE. I don't see that going away.

This is going to be quite the improvement. Especially if translated across alts somehow in corp jobs.

We have been playing around with the idea of batch installing jobs, however the speed of submitting new jobs or resubmitting old ones may mean we just don't need the added complexity that batching creates. When this hits SiSi we'll be looking for feedback on exactly this.

This depends a little bit on your internet connection, swapping activity or blueprint will require a remote call in the background, however you no longer need to click a fetch quote button and we are optimizing this checking as much as possible to keep the interface snappy. A lot of the validation is now performed client side to help achieve this.

This looks like a definite improvement.

However…


…I still maintain that it is still blueprint focused when it should be work-flow focused. The improvements mainly touch information discoverability and visualisation, and providing all the same old settings in a single work sheet. You still have to go through the same motions as before though,

Instead of picking a blueprint and selecting what you want to do with it, the process should be selecting what you want to do and then picking the blueprints you want to do it with. By reasoning for this is that, with or without the functionality being in the game, people work in batches: “today, I'm going to put these 5 BPCs into the manufacturing queue”; “now, I'm going to invent from these 10 BPCs (and in 75 minutes, I'll do the same from 10 new ones)”.

By the look of it, this new UI still requires me to pick the blueprints, one by one, and setting each up. Yes, keeping the settings from the last time a job was done will help, but it means I will have to fiddle every time I need to do something new. Yesterday, I made copies of the BPO; today, I'm going to manufacture the T1 items that go into the T2 procution; tomorrow, I'll ME-research it a bit more. Will all of these different uses be remembered for each blueprint, or will I have to set them up every time?
It still seems to be a matter of Pick (single) BP → pick activity → pick installation → check and accept → repeat.

I feel a better method would be to use a funnel method to go from large to small: first, I pick the installation where all my materials are. Then I pick an activity, and the defaults for this activity are applied. Then I shift-select 20 blueprints and dump them into the installation+activity combo I've picked — if I want something special, I can adjust them individually, but the defaults will probably work since… well they are my defaults. Then it's just a matter of clicking the “do it!” button (if all requirements come up as green) and go to bed.
This would make the process Pick installation → pick activity → pick all BPs → accept. No repeat needed.


I understand that this would require completely new abstractions and evaluation processes that would require some deeper digging in the mechanics, and I'm in no way saying that what's been presented does not seem like a vast improvement in how much clickinging you have to do, but I think that in a longer perspective, moving away from the kind of object-oriented approach towards a more process-oriented one would be even more beneficial.

This looks like it will be a fantastic upgrade.

As someone who does EVERYTHING with just this character (one account, one character, no alts... on purpose), anything that makes operations more streamlined and understandable is very welcomed.

I was particularly happy to read you're planning a notification for when a job is finished. That will be a big plus for someone who runs Jump Clones and could be (literally) on the other side of space when the job is finished.