Crime & Punishment

I do not want to seem rude here , and while i apreciate your help in the matter , i feel i need to rectify a few things with regards to what you said.

If you would have bothered to check my kb you would have seen that i do have pvp experience , most of my experience is solo pvp .

The reason why i goofed on your stratios buddy is because i was at the begginig of this, using a vvvv low skilled alt , had a frigate for logi to travel faster to u guys and yes i was eager ...if i could turn back time it would have been different.

As for the low sec loss , i knew very well might lose , i stayed on the damn station for god's sake so your ceo just swaped ships around , undocked and got my main cause i forgot i had some free for all killrights on me . Getting my geno pod worth 50 mil is chump change but ofc in the eyes of carebears that must look like an impresive kill indeed.

I took the time and teached your stratios guy about what just happened and why and i told in corp chat i did not care for the loses as its my first attemtps at it.

Oh well , rly it doesnt matter anyway as this is just a game but if you ask me, coming here to say what you did is pretty petty and just trying to make me look bad..it won't work , cause i atleast acknowledge my mistakes.

But thanks anyway

The comparisons are perfectly valid because except for the last, they are all games with rules. The examples I gave are all valid within the game rules. No one would feel bad about making valid plays in those games and therefore should not fee bad for making valid plays in EvE. How long it takes to recover from loss is one of the things that makes EvE great and makes learning and paying attention to the rules much more important and rewarding. More rewarding than any CoD match.

Well, one thing that it could help with the "Slowness" is that, in theory, I could awox someone, you make a big show about being against awoxing and act like a normal pubby CEO, then after I leave, you kill them in their new ship and let me back in haha

Cha ching!

The one where i team up and blow up stuff & the one where i get 500 mil ransom and a nice blingy tengu.


Right so i told you guys i had 2 alts in 2 different corps. Last night i decided to make a move with one. So here i am heading towards they're home station in my dessy with my logi right behind me. This 1 corpie just bought a lovely new Abbadon that he wanted to use and asked me if i could pull missions..obv i wasnt gonna say o can't right?

So he w8s for me to get there , i jump in system make a quick SS warp bothy toons there ,drop fleet on main and invite him on my dessie alt. To my surprize there was another corpie who wanted in the action..i didnt wanted to get another dps boat on field but figured if i say no it would be to suspicious so i just went for it and hoped for the best.

He warps his baddon to me, i tackle and begging neuting him . After about 2 mins the other guy shows up in a "oh lol " gnosis and his own neutral logi. Turns out he was also a safari guy. Sadly. He blew me up at first, but then when 2 more , but this time friendly, corp members arived with one in a basilisk, wierdly enough for an abbadon, he fleeted me to help him. Naturaly i couldnt refuse.

While i was flying mad buying mods anyway i could to git a new cormorant, i had my main move closer to the basi for a warp in cause he was far away and i new he had to go down. Finaly i came back, the basi pilot ,like a moron sadly, didint expected a thing, warped my corm on top of him and blasted him out of space, my friendly awoxer took out they're hound helper with t1 drones lol..so all was left but the baddon. Lucky for us i was smart enough to fit 2 small neuts else we wouldnt have broken his cap stable tank with just the med neuts from the gnosis. He was also reluctant to pay so he went pop! Instead. Total value around 500 mil destroyed.
Best thing though i was invited to BU so that was all worth it.


Next up was from this morning, my friendly blingy tengu recruit finaly logged in. He was in before me so when i tried to convo him he didnt respond , so i opened up the map and saw he was in space at a mission hub.

I quickly moved a vexor and after a prober there, took me like 10 mins, he was still in space when i launched probes.

Found him pretty easy so i warped to him, entered like 4 pockets till i found him, lucky enough he had 2 npcs left to finish the mission so i got there just in time.

After i broke his shield , the strangest thing, he ejected from his ship...and left it there..wtf. np i took it , made 2 trips to get the tengu to base and my vexor back while in the mean time he gave me 200 mil ransom for his ship which ofc i took but wasnt enough. So we ended up negotiating for the ship and after i took all his mods valued at 500 mil aprox i made a contract to him for just the hull for 300 , which he payed!!

He was a rly cool guy and took all of this like a true sport, even told me i was good , can you believe that? I was like wow im giving this guy a medal.

So total money made from all of this is close to 1 bil isk.

And i feel good about it cause i let him have his ship back and even thought him how to avoid this in the future.

Considering it was a less then 200k sp toon , cormorant with 2 small neuts , neutrons , ab , scram , web , 1 dc meta 3, 1 meta 3 mag stab ,3 ccc rigs

Thank you for illustrating the point about distinguishing real life from internet spaceships.

Does a fox feel bad for eating a rabbit in the woods or an eagle for plucking a fish from the river? Why you might as well ask if the sun feels bad for rising over the desert.

These slow, dull players that we prey on are just that. Prey. Those of us that hunt them do our jobs best when culling the herd so that the clever ones can grow fat and old and unsub as bitter vets.

Not that I know I know anything of it of course.

Now go forth young wolf in the timber, young hawk on the wing and do what is natural and best for the delicate eco system of New Eden.

Eve is just a game, in the long run remember that, also remember those are human beings on the other side of your theft. I treat every player as a person. I have no regrets or simpathy to my victims. They may have spent money on plex for that shiny stuff but thats their choice, as its yours to take it. Handle that and you will do well.

I returning player contracted me 2 plex this week to move for him because he didnt feel safe moving them himself. Easy 1.4b for me ay? After he contracted them he told me he buys plex so he doesnt have to grind isk so he could spend more time with his kids. Easiest 1.4b ive made to date. I wish him and his children a happy future.

Another succesfull safari + mission runner baiting.


Im gonna start off with the later as its much more entertaining.
I was abit bored with nothin much to do in my temporary base in caldari ( bat-cave ) , yesterday i saw someone in BU channel talking about how they bait mission runners with a noctis. I tried baiting before but just wasnt working out so since i was bored figured lets try it again. No one particulary fun to kill in my alts corp and no new recruit for me ..so i got started.
After 3 atempts on a raven , domi and a nightmare.. i scaned out a golem, saved bm and warped my noctis. Loted shot the mtu salvaged and all of a sudden the golem takes a pot shot at me..i was like awesooome! Warped out grabed my vexor warped back only to d-scan that he was gone. Ok np , i still had over 3 mins left of my LE so i w8ted on the accel gate, i knew he was gona come back cause he left his mtu behind.

Most certainly he does come back and just in time cause i tackled him with 7 seconds to spare on the LE. I started neuting him and proceded to ask for ransom. At first i asked for 300 mil cause i thought its cheap enough to pay and then i can milk more once he already sent some..and get this..he asks why so cheap? Will 500 be ok? Lol yea...and he sends me 500. Now at this point i already wanted to kill him anyway , his shield was painfully slowly going down .. but he enters that rotten bastion mode..so my scram deactivates... And , i dunno how , cause i was pressing on my scram to activate constantly, but he just warped of all of a sudden..with half armor..just ..warps..how?? I thought u can't move in bastion mode.wtf...
Well atleast i got 500 mil.



Last night i also managed to get another recruit to come missioning with me, in his 800 mil apoc navy. Before that .. the wise guy lost a bestower to a nado on a hs gate, 1 bil of crap in the cargo...frackin unreal..

So naturaly i asked him , like a good upstanding corporation leader, how much isk/assets he has left ( note : i did give a good reason for my question ) and he told me only 30 mil and the apoc.... Oh great, might aswell just blow him up for the loot and get on with my life.

So i did , blocked him right before i tackled him, he blew up, i got 300 mil in loots, and he...surprisingly..places a 270 mil bounty on my head..... Thats the last time i take my victims word for granted..


All in all this bussines has been pretty good so far :)

Hey guys ,so few new stuff that happened that id like to share.

From my last post till yesterday its been kindah slow, made another alt , sat the others in corps to bide some time and not let them look like corp hoppers..and so on.

Yesterday though, was another good day. So good i coulndt even decide which alt to log in lol.

It started off by me joining with an alt in a cheap safari gnosis in the first corp i tried to awox on my main(in the op how i missed on the orca) . Again no api check,no interview..just aplication in and got accepted.

So i run down with Starbuck to they're home while travling there on the alt aswell. The ceo who has the orca just started a mining op. I get in system and see his orca in a belt ( he had the corps name on the orca name..how easy) . Funny thing he actually remembered me so as i was getting in position he convo'd me on my main to ask me how i was doing? Naturaly the moment when i had tackle on the orca, i told him " i'm doing you"

Stubborn that he is he didnt want to pay up,no one came to help , so after 30 mins the orca went pop. Nothin extreme of value droped.
After about 15 more mins of tear harvesting where they kept insisting on the words "douchebag" and "mom" , they finaly payed me 300 mil for my service Nd i left the corp pleased . I had gotten my payback with the orca kill , 700 mil worth , total of 1 bil in loses to them. Yep good payback


Later i discard my own corp of 2 new bros but not before i give them a warm welcome to eve and its pvp nature.

Much later still , i log on to my jita alt thats ceo of the reverse safari corp i have, within seconds i get a convo from someone who was most enthusiastic about joining up. Normaly and from my own experience in this profesion , i did extreme checks on this guy to smell him out but luckly for me , turns out he was another returning player who thought my recruit add was that good.

A few talks and api checks later and he's in . He had alot of stuff and 700 mil to his name. Naturaly i couldnt miss the opportunity to offer my "freighter service" which he accepted. Yet again the ol item exchange contracts works ita magic and i found myself asset wise 400 mil richer.

While i was pretending to move his stuff i quickly placed and alt back in corp and make it look great for them to bond as 2 new broes and run a mission while i deliver the stuff. He gladly accepted.

I was w8ing for him in my gnosis with neuts and 3 guns but with mobile depot to refit. Also with main in logi.

Took me 30 mins to crack his cap stable dominix...damn what a tank. 4 med neuts 1 small neut he kept repairing..

He didint pay any ransom but it was fine, blew him up and ended it all by teaching him what happened.


All in all a good day, nearly 800 mil isk got and just as much destroyed.