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Net Neutrality and the US

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Josef Djugashvilis
#41 - 2014-04-25 17:55:59 UTC
Decaneos wrote:
Now that the supreme court in the US has decided that internet providers can now charge to give company's greater bandwidth or indeed slow a site down considerably if they don't pay up, how will this effect gamers in the US and eve-online specifically?

http://articles.latimes.com/2014/jan/14/business/la-fi-fcc-net-neutrality-20140115

this ones a political site so you have been warned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YRI5qk6KZY


I blame hi-sec players for this.

In before Baltec 1 Smile

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2014-04-25 17:59:45 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Decaneos wrote:
Now that the supreme court in the US has decided that internet providers can now charge to give company's greater bandwidth or indeed slow a site down considerably if they don't pay up, how will this effect gamers in the US and eve-online specifically?

http://articles.latimes.com/2014/jan/14/business/la-fi-fcc-net-neutrality-20140115

this ones a political site so you have been warned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YRI5qk6KZY


I blame hi-sec players for this.

In before Baltec 1 Smile


You are correct all of this is highsec's fault.

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Josef Djugashvilis
#43 - 2014-04-25 18:02:48 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Decaneos wrote:
Now that the supreme court in the US has decided that internet providers can now charge to give company's greater bandwidth or indeed slow a site down considerably if they don't pay up, how will this effect gamers in the US and eve-online specifically?

http://articles.latimes.com/2014/jan/14/business/la-fi-fcc-net-neutrality-20140115

this ones a political site so you have been warned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YRI5qk6KZY


I blame hi-sec players for this.

In before Baltec 1 Smile


You are correct all of this is highsec's fault.


Thank you good sir !

It has taken me some years, but I now know how to win at Eve, just blame hi-sec for everything Smile

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#44 - 2014-04-25 18:44:58 UTC
not happy with just working towards ruining eve, hisec takes it a step further and ruins the internet

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Josef Djugashvilis
#45 - 2014-04-25 18:51:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
Andski wrote:
not happy with just working towards ruining eve, hisec takes it a step further and ruins the internet


And you guys thought you were good at gaming Smile

We would take America completely, but, well, we just don't want the hassle of dealing with cranks like the NRA to be honest.

They just do not have the right carebear attitude for hi-sec.

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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#46 - 2014-04-25 19:07:11 UTC
Chribba wrote:
EVE doesn't require more bw than an old 14.4k modem so don't worry (except on patch days).

I play this game on a scientific calculator, it's got the best internet yet. 0bps
Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2014-04-25 20:48:07 UTC
It may affect download speeds, if ISPs decide to throttle services such as Steam. I don't see them attacking CCP's servers in particular but it's possible.

However, playing an online game requires very little bandwidth (<1 Mb) so you shouldn't see any latency issues from it. Unless they decide to be real dicks and specifically target gaming servers.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2014-04-25 20:51:26 UTC
Noxisia Arkana wrote:
Yes, this seems like a crap deal.

I doubt EvE pulls enough bandwith accross the US to actually have a providor throttle it down. Companies like You Tube, NetFlix, Amazon, etc. that pull huge quantities of bandwith. I doubt EvE will be affected (at least in the near term).

That depends on what the 3-4 internet providers (many place only 1 of which si available as a choice to ahve) decide arbitrarily what an excessive bandwidth pull is.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2014-04-25 20:54:04 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
Capitalism sound like a good idea but its evolutionary outcome is always the same...monopolies and greed. Unless a govt is willing to keep it in check, it favors no one but the wealthy thus producing plutocratic govts.

Mention the word Socialism to any american and theyll call you a commie-loving Nazi who wants to take away their guns and freedoms.

Americans seem to have this idea that a change in government policy in one instance means the whole system will convert, in this case the government cracking down on the rich monopolies gouging the economy. the large companies have brainwashed the masses into thinking if the government comes after them, the poor will be next and it will turn into the fourth reich.
Luca Lure
Obertura
#50 - 2014-04-25 21:01:11 UTC
Malcolm from Marketing wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Hahahaha, net neutrality.
It's cute that people thought that ever existed when in most places you have pretty much only one or two options for broadband internet.

ISPs (particularly Comcast) are monopolistic and it's getting to be absolutely ******* ridiculous and I'm going to end this post before I get too angry.



What with the internet monopolies and messed up health care system, you American folks really do have my sympathies, sometimes it's like you live in a 3rd world country.

Here in the UK, we have bodies set up specifically to stop all this crap happening with monopolies, and to make sure an open and competitive market will always exist in all areas not just for internet, but utilities too.

Monopolies are bad Mkay America.


If someone from the UK is telling you, that you are living in a 3rd world country, it must be really bad. People from the real Europe look at the UK as a 3rd world country.

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Baaldor
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#51 - 2014-04-25 21:16:11 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
Capitalism sound like a good idea but its evolutionary outcome is always the same...monopolies and greed. Unless a govt is willing to keep it in check, it favors no one but the wealthy thus producing plutocratic govts.


Yes, there is absolutely no corruption, greed or the quest to monopolize power at all in any form of Government....



As to the topic:

So, to get this right, if a gaming company refuses to pay the toll charges, they get throttled back, nerds rage quit and go outside?

Down side to this again?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#52 - 2014-04-25 21:58:23 UTC
My favorite part is how net neutrality was a plank on Obummer's 2007 platform, and if I cared to look, probably his 2012 one too.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Pirmasis Sparagas
Bullet Cluster
#53 - 2014-04-25 22:08:00 UTC
Decaneos wrote:
My issue with this is, if the internet providers in the US charge more for allowing eve on there lines, then will ccp bump the price for everyone or just those in the US

Here, in Europe we already pay more, than you Americans, so why we have to pay even more?
Kirsi Kirjasto
Aggressive Structural Steel Expediting Services
#54 - 2014-04-25 22:26:11 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
My favorite part is how net neutrality was a plank on Obummer's 2007 platform, and if I cared to look, probably his 2012 one too.


Principle? Whats that? The election is over - now Obama has Democratic corporate campaign donors to suck off.

The hipster CEOs in Silicon Valley, General Electric, the entire faux industry built around 'green energy', the large Wall Street banks, the health insurance industry, the new emerging homo-fascist lobby....thats a lot of penises!

So don't blame Obama when he can't even give the little guy lip service. His lips are busy.
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#55 - 2014-04-25 22:32:47 UTC
I love posts about RL politics in Eve general discussion. They're the best.

We're blaming Obama for Hisec and GD, right?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#56 - 2014-04-25 22:39:19 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
I love posts about RL politics in Eve general discussion. They're the best.

We're blaming Obama for Hisec and GD, right?


I blame hisec for global warming

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#57 - 2014-04-25 22:41:03 UTC
Somebody make a nerf hisec petition on the White House's We The People website

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#58 - 2014-04-25 22:42:26 UTC
Andski wrote:
Somebody make a nerf hisec petition on the White House's We The People website

Oh god....
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#59 - 2014-04-25 22:43:52 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
I love posts about RL politics in Eve general discussion. They're the best.

We're blaming Obama for Hisec and GD, right?


I blame the very concept of democracy for GD.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2014-04-25 22:47:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Barbara Nichole
Decaneos wrote:
Now that the supreme court in the US has decided that internet providers can now charge to give company's greater bandwidth or indeed slow a site down considerably if they don't pay up, how will this effect gamers in the US and eve-online specifically?

http://articles.latimes.com/2014/jan/14/business/la-fi-fcc-net-neutrality-20140115

this ones a political site so you have been warned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YRI5qk6KZY

It shouldn't have much impact...since if it can be proven that a provider is picking a winner between two rival business gaming companies the law suits would soon cripple the provider - I expect they will try to be reasonable in their handling of disparate gaming communities.

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