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Before I start with the simple 'what economy'? of low sec, you may want to consider that anyone going to low sec, for any reason, besides the ones that 'live there' are adding to the possible economy of Eve. Since low sec is famous for people ganking anyone on sight (not saying this holds true everywhere since I have flown through low sec a few times and have had no problems so far), the more travelers, cloaky ship or not, the more likely there is for someone to be ganked. Which means maybe new modules plus new salvage for someone, new lols, perhaps even a new story about the one that got away or almost got away.

Eve is a game, it should be just as much about the experience as the isk.

I can't agree in any way about the adding or subtracting line. Even a potential encounter adds to the flavour of Eve, and the system it happens in. How do I know that new person with sec status of 5.0 isn't thinking about doing his first gank because I am a juicy target.

If I use low for PI and live in high, it could be that the materials I harvest in low, make their way back to low. Or, the isk I make is used to buy a ship that someone made in low. Or the isk that someone made selling a ship helped them to fund a new customs office bpc purchase or construction materials that they will take to low to set up because low is where they live. Or the isk that someone made from selling their bpc is used to buy the modules for their faction fit t3 battlecruiser. And those modules came from someone who lives in low sec, got the modules there and decided to go to high sec and sell their modules. And now that person has decided to take this brand new bc into low to blow up some customs offices because they don't add anything to the economy of high sec...or something.

It may be that low residents will set up those customs offices, set a tax rate that the average high sec dweller can live with, and make some easy isk letting them use PI, thereby directly injecting isk into the pocket of a low sec resident. And he may still be ganked by that same person/corp, which just adds to the craziness of low sec.

Maybe.

Stories waiting to be written.

If this happens to you too often, you have too many POCOs too spread out.

And in any case, you are not quite forced to defend. The POCOs have fast shield recharge for a structure: 50k seconds, a bit under 14 hours. I'm not familiar enough with the recharge formula to give you a precise number, but I expect it'll reach 25% (safe level) in 4 hours or so if nobody shoots it.

Interesting, I had tried a few different P2s and they were all the same tariff. Guess I'll have to play on Sisi tomorrow and buy one of everything and test it out.

That story will be the most likely I think, and its the shade of grey that so many black-or-white-only highsec PI dwellers can't foresee. All they see is the doom of blobs wiping out their CO, or the 100% tax rates of local residents. They can't see rational people putting up COs with acceptable tax rates because they have already ruled out the possibility of anyone rational living in lowsec.

Blobs will get bored of griefing COs - there's no profit in it, or tears if no one defends.

Pirates won't waste money on 100% tax rate offices that no one ever visits because of the 100% tax rates.

It's the middle ground in lowsec where things will get interesting.

Indeed, stories waiting to be written. On with the changes!

Any chance of making POCO's even slightly hard to find, rather than today where any idiot who knows how to use the Overview can easily identify these objects to grief?

If these were only anchorable on grid with the warp to for the planet, and required someone to actually warp out there and look (similar to POS and IHUB), these might be able to hide through obscurity rather than be easily identifiable targets? If you want them off grid of the Warp-To Planet, make some sort of reference to these requiring placement at a Lagrange point or something and have a seperate warp-in (which has to be manually done to get eyes or clever use of the directional scanner to confirm - basically, warp to where the POCO would be if there is one to find out if there is one).

Just a thought.

It all contributes to my main point that there is a problem outside of the game that needs to be solved in order to better solve the problems in the game. It's 100% relevant to the topic.

This statement is a perfect example of the kind of bullshit that low-sec POCO operators would have to put up with. I say bullshit, because there is no deterent to keep wandering griefers that have nothing better to do from poking at your structures with no chance for reprisal.

PI operations for P1 materials will die off in low sec and there WILL be a corresponding price flux. This flux will hurt more than CCP is anticipating.

can we walk around in it as some point and leave the pod? Or will that cause another whambulance?

I have a couple of questions.

1. What will be the standings hit for:
A. Destroying an InterBus CO in Low Sec
B. Destroying a POCO in Low Sec

2. Will we be able to RR an InterBus CO in WH space if it is attacked and we can drive the attackers off?

3. Will InterBus COs repair themselves if attacked but not destroyed?

4. If my POCO is attacked in Low Sec and put into reinforcement, when the attackers return to finish the job will I be able to attack them without a standings hit?

5. Would it be possible to link an attack on a POCO to an automatic wardec against the owning corp with concurrent ISK deduction from corp wallet?

Max.

First of all I am not even going to question what "we are absolutely not trying to make people do PI" is supposed to mean as I expect Omen is trying to say something different than what he writes.

But he does state that "The player owned customs offices are meant to increase meaningful space conflict" which directly means that POCO has jack to do with improving the PI experience but instead wrap it into "meaningful space conflict" which can mean nothing than making it more inaccessible. Unless "increase conflict" suddenly means "easier to access", of course.