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Dev Blog: Fanfest 2014 - A Festival for the Best of Fans

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Wander Prian
Nosferatu Security Foundation
#21 - 2014-04-23 16:39:59 UTC
So last year there was no wormhole-roundtable in the scredule, it was added later. The room turned out to be way too small, as there was about 150 of us present. I see that this year we have a wh-roundtable 1&2, but they are again in the small rooms.

Are they the same roundtable and you are hoping for less people to show up at once, or are they gonna be about different things and the rooms will be too small again?

I'm fearing that the mass limits are gonna be too small either way...

Wormholer for life.

Thead Enco
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-04-23 16:49:11 UTC
CCP Legion wrote:
Tam Althor wrote:
Is there going to be a post ahead of time to let us know what will be covered on EVE TV? Would be nice to know what will be available to watch before paying.


Yep, there should be another blog coming with EVE TV details.


What's the word with the release of the rest of the indy blogs? Or are we gettng blueballed tll fanfest?
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#23 - 2014-04-23 16:50:11 UTC
Wander Prian wrote:
So last year there was no wormhole-roundtable in the scredule, it was added later. The room turned out to be way too small, as there was about 150 of us present. I see that this year we have a wh-roundtable 1&2, but they are again in the small rooms.

Are they the same roundtable and you are hoping for less people to show up at once, or are they gonna be about different things and the rooms will be too small again?

I'm fearing that the mass limits are gonna be too small either way...



Same with the Economy round table last fanfest, seem we don't have one this year? Ugh

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-

Pirmasis Sparagas
Bullet Cluster
#24 - 2014-04-23 16:52:57 UTC
Makari Aeron wrote:
1. Saw new Dev Blog
2. Got hopes up that it was Industry Blog #3
3. Was crushed with disappointment**
4. Read mobile version of Fanfest schedule since it was more compact
5. Was happy to see far more EVE panels than DUST panels (unlike last year)
6. Double checked that I had purchased the HD stream
7. Reverted back to waiting impatiently for more R&I dev blogs


**not really, but it sounded more dramatic. I was still somewhat disappointed

Don't say anything bad about DUST! They have feelings too...
Wander Prian
Nosferatu Security Foundation
#25 - 2014-04-23 16:54:29 UTC
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
Wander Prian wrote:
So last year there was no wormhole-roundtable in the scredule, it was added later. The room turned out to be way too small, as there was about 150 of us present. I see that this year we have a wh-roundtable 1&2, but they are again in the small rooms.

Are they the same roundtable and you are hoping for less people to show up at once, or are they gonna be about different things and the rooms will be too small again?

I'm fearing that the mass limits are gonna be too small either way...



Same with the Economy round table last fanfest, seem we don't have one this year? Ugh



As the next expansions theme is industry, I'd say you will have alot of economy and industry talks at fanfest

Wormholer for life.

Fredric Wolf
Black Sheep Down
Tactical Narcotics Team
#26 - 2014-04-23 16:55:30 UTC
Pirmasis Sparagas wrote:
Makari Aeron wrote:
1. Saw new Dev Blog
2. Got hopes up that it was Industry Blog #3
3. Was crushed with disappointment**
4. Read mobile version of Fanfest schedule since it was more compact
5. Was happy to see far more EVE panels than DUST panels (unlike last year)
6. Double checked that I had purchased the HD stream
7. Reverted back to waiting impatiently for more R&I dev blogs


**not really, but it sounded more dramatic. I was still somewhat disappointed

Don't say anything bad about DUST! They have feelings too...



These players have way to many emotions to be playing in a game like EVE.
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#27 - 2014-04-23 16:58:38 UTC
Wander Prian wrote:
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
Wander Prian wrote:
So last year there was no wormhole-roundtable in the scredule, it was added later. The room turned out to be way too small, as there was about 150 of us present. I see that this year we have a wh-roundtable 1&2, but they are again in the small rooms.

Are they the same roundtable and you are hoping for less people to show up at once, or are they gonna be about different things and the rooms will be too small again?

I'm fearing that the mass limits are gonna be too small either way...



Same with the Economy round table last fanfest, seem we don't have one this year? Ugh



As the next expansions theme is industry, I'd say you will have alot of economy and industry talks at fanfest


Do you notice the marketing session... its about CCP marketing, not about Enablers in EVE ;)... and industry people are not economy people. Running a corp bank, running a huge order portfolio, but not doing industry @ all. When starting the questionnaire about it, I even stopped, I simply didn't know EVE industry good enough ;).

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-

CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#28 - 2014-04-23 16:59:12 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Fozzie
Wander Prian wrote:
So last year there was no wormhole-roundtable in the scredule, it was added later. The room turned out to be way too small, as there was about 150 of us present. I see that this year we have a wh-roundtable 1&2, but they are again in the small rooms.

Are they the same roundtable and you are hoping for less people to show up at once, or are they gonna be about different things and the rooms will be too small again?

I'm fearing that the mass limits are gonna be too small either way...


All of the repeating roundtables (Wormholes, Nullsec, Ship balancing) are going to be true repeats in the sense that we are providing two sessions so that different people can attend (since they are all such popular topics). That being said; roundtable discussions are driven by the attendees so they'll probably end up meandering in lots of directions, some of which will be repeated and some of which will not.

The Amarr and Jita rooms are the largest roundtable rooms available. Holding roundtables in the lecture halls never really works very well as it becomes very difficult to have an actual discussion in the cavernous spaces.

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Wander Prian
Nosferatu Security Foundation
#29 - 2014-04-23 16:59:45 UTC
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
Wander Prian wrote:
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
Wander Prian wrote:
So last year there was no wormhole-roundtable in the scredule, it was added later. The room turned out to be way too small, as there was about 150 of us present. I see that this year we have a wh-roundtable 1&2, but they are again in the small rooms.

Are they the same roundtable and you are hoping for less people to show up at once, or are they gonna be about different things and the rooms will be too small again?

I'm fearing that the mass limits are gonna be too small either way...



Same with the Economy round table last fanfest, seem we don't have one this year? Ugh



As the next expansions theme is industry, I'd say you will have alot of economy and industry talks at fanfest


Do you notice the marketing session... its about CCP marketing, not about Enablers in EVE ;)... and industry people are not economy people. Running a corp bank, running a huge order portfolio, but not doing industry @ all. When starting the questionnaire about it, I even stopped, I simply didn't know EVE industry good enough ;).



Sorry I had just gotten home and I rechecked the schedule and you are right.

Wormholer for life.

Thead Enco
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#30 - 2014-04-23 17:00:52 UTC
CCP RubberBAND wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
CCP Eterne wrote:
FanFest 2014 is a little over a week away and it's going to be EPIC! Not only will there be roundtables, presentations, and the popular keynotes, we're having Iceland's own rising MMA star Gunnar Nelson take on 10 CCP developers in the cage! And there's a ton of other fun stuff to look forward to as well.

CCP Legion has it all laid out in full in this dev blog.


Aaaannnnddd.....another day passes without any of the dev blogs promised that outline the additional changes to industry.
It has been a week since the last one, and there are what, 4 to go?

Unless of course, you plan on releasing all the particulars in front of a room of sycophantic null sec players at Fanfest, and then dump the blogs on the forum after that.


Note that this time of year is littered with holidays here in Iceland, which means people haven't been at work for more than a couple of days since last blog went up.

That being said, the other blogs are going into review and should see the light of day soon.


Food for thought when releasing major changes to industry, one paragraph of numbers would of probably saved you 20 pages of back and forth responses on the 95+ page thread that is growing daily.

Just saying o7
Wander Prian
Nosferatu Security Foundation
#31 - 2014-04-23 17:03:32 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Wander Prian wrote:
So last year there was no wormhole-roundtable in the scredule, it was added later. The room turned out to be way too small, as there was about 150 of us present. I see that this year we have a wh-roundtable 1&2, but they are again in the small rooms.

Are they the same roundtable and you are hoping for less people to show up at once, or are they gonna be about different things and the rooms will be too small again?

I'm fearing that the mass limits are gonna be too small either way...


All of the repeating roundtables (Wormholes, Nullsec, Ship balancing) are going to be true repeats in the sense that we are providing two sessions so that different people can attend (since they are all such popular topics). That being said; roundtable discussions are driven by the attendees so they'll probably end up meandering in lots of directions, some of which will be repeated and some of which will not.

The Amarr and Jita rooms are the largest roundtable rooms available. Holding roundtables in the lecture halls never really works very well as it becomes very difficult to have an actual discussion in the cavernous spaces.



Last year Bettik and Greyscale were seriously sitting on the table (as the room was as full as possible and another 50+ people hanging outside) before Dolan came and moved the whole thing to the poker-area.

Wormholer for life.

Max Kolonko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2014-04-23 17:38:03 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Wander Prian wrote:
So last year there was no wormhole-roundtable in the scredule, it was added later. The room turned out to be way too small, as there was about 150 of us present. I see that this year we have a wh-roundtable 1&2, but they are again in the small rooms.

Are they the same roundtable and you are hoping for less people to show up at once, or are they gonna be about different things and the rooms will be too small again?

I'm fearing that the mass limits are gonna be too small either way...


All of the repeating roundtables (Wormholes, Nullsec, Ship balancing) are going to be true repeats in the sense that we are providing two sessions so that different people can attend (since they are all such popular topics). That being said; roundtable discussions are driven by the attendees so they'll probably end up meandering in lots of directions, some of which will be repeated and some of which will not.

The Amarr and Jita rooms are the largest roundtable rooms available. Holding roundtables in the lecture halls never really works very well as it becomes very difficult to have an actual discussion in the cavernous spaces.


Any chance to get them recorded? Or maybe even transmitted on stream? But at least recorded and available on YT.
CCP Manifest
CCP Retirement Home
#33 - 2014-04-23 17:48:04 UTC
Iceland I will soon be in you again.

======== o7 _CCP Manifest | Public Relations and Social Media | @ccp_manifest_

Swidgen
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2014-04-23 17:52:57 UTC
CCP RubberBAND wrote:
Note that this time of year is littered with holidays here in Iceland, which means people haven't been at work for more than a couple of days since last blog went up.

So lots of people are out of the office the week before fanfest, everybody's partying and patting themselves on the backs (for some unfathomable reason) during fanfest, and lots of people will be out of the office the week after fanfest nursing their hangovers and taking some vacation days before the "summer rush". It's no wonder it takes CCP for-freaking-ever to get anything done. Wow.
1Robert McNamara1
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2014-04-23 18:09:45 UTC  |  Edited by: 1Robert McNamara1
Swidgen wrote:
Some words.


Dude, it's a job for CCP employees. They get time off too. FFS.
1Robert McNamara1
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2014-04-23 18:11:50 UTC
Quote:
Travel Advisory
Due to a potential strike by the Association of Airport Employees in Iceland, your travel to Iceland may be impacted. We recommend anyone flying into Iceland keep an eye on the airport website and get in touch with their airline before departure.


You mean in game that literally farms diplomats we can't bring in some mediators to sort this out? eve is real


I have to miss this year but the wife is excited to visit for 2015!
Swidgen
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2014-04-23 18:17:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Swidgen
1Robert McNamara1 wrote:
Dude, it's a job for CCP employees. They get time off too. FFS.

Dude, they're a company that is in business to make money approaching a key time of the year. Taking a ton of time off right around that time doesn't sound too smart. Sure everyone gets time off, but they've got all of August to look forward to. They trot out "nobody is in the office" as an excuse for everything under the sun when they need to.

edit: and where are those devblogs? If CCP is planning to hold them until fanfest they should own up to it right now.
Valterra Craven
#38 - 2014-04-23 18:47:24 UTC
Swidgen wrote:
1Robert McNamara1 wrote:
Dude, it's a job for CCP employees. They get time off too. FFS.

Dude, they're a company that is in business to make money approaching a key time of the year. Taking a ton of time off right around that time doesn't sound too smart. Sure everyone gets time off, but they've got all of August to look forward to. They trot out "nobody is in the office" as an excuse for everything under the sun when they need to.

edit: and where are those devblogs? If CCP is planning to hold them until fanfest they should own up to it right now.


Or ya know just waited till all the blogs could be posted at once. Its not like the changes they are proposing can really be prepared for anyway.
Valterra Craven
#39 - 2014-04-23 18:50:01 UTC
CCP RubberBAND wrote:

Note that this time of year is littered with holidays here in Iceland, which means people haven't been at work for more than a couple of days since last blog went up.
.


Seriously, you guys seem to use that line a lot (or at least I've seen it used more more recently)

But I do have a question for you... what time of year isn't bad for Iceland Holidays... is there one?

I seem to be living in the wrong country...
Aineko Macx
#40 - 2014-04-23 19:23:05 UTC
I sure hope CCP flexes it's political muscle to get that strike averted. I'd be pissed if I missed fanfest due to it.