EVE General Discussion

I refuse to read his crap.

And... No.

No, because "everything" covers literally "everything", including security.

People seem to forget that if nullsec was better at literally everything,
it would be the new highsec.

I believe that improving nullsec more and more opens up a whole shitload of issues
which will eventually end in the need of reducing incomes and "betterness",
because CCP can simply not foresee wtf will happen once nullsec starts to become
a new empire space.

And it ses to go that way. People rent space. More people in null will lead to more
security for everybody. It will also meam that more people will make even more money,
which is a problem in itself.

To shorten what I want to say...

Nullsec will eventually become what highsec should have been from the get go.

And THEN the issues go full circle.

BUT there is one thing that might actually help against such a development,
namely the NewSpace people will find by building player made stargates.

Then NewSpace will be what nullsec was meant to be,
while nullsec will be what highsec was meant to be
and highsec will be a ghetto centered around newer players.

And what about lowsec?

Lowsec will always be the redheaded stepchild...

starting a power creep between the different areas of space is not a good way to balance things.

Anybody ever bother to look at a map?

Null has way more security than high sec according to the big red kill overlays.

Just sayin'

Mr Epeen

number of kills =/= level of security.

Not provided through the game mechanics, but through players taking responsibility for their own protection and working with other players.

How many ships do you think autopilot through nullsec? How many AFK mine in systems with neutrals around? How many will just remain in a mission pocket when they see combat probes on scan?

Those that do these things in null risk ending up on the ALOD list.

Variety and competition.

I think each empire space, sec status type and space type in general should have different things...
No single place in the galaxy should be "ultimate income" or something like that.
have some activities only work in null.. some works better in high due to resources available etc.

We out source most of our production to mexico and china to avoid expensive inefficient industry practices such as high taxes and pesky workers rights.

If we translate this to eve it should be more efficient and cost effective to manufacture goods in null then high sec.

Generally, yes. It's risk vs. reward - for example, if I'm willing to haul my PI goods through null, I should be rewarded with lower tax rates and more resources than in high sec. The same holds true for mission rewards and especially mining.

However, null-sec shouldn't be the goal of every capsuleer - high and low shouldn't be some cocoon in which "real" players develop. It should be still be worthwhile to play in high-sec, even if you stay there 90% of the time.

Risk v Reward. That is the number one consideration that should drive all aspects of the game.

Team Play. This is an MMO, after all. The biggest and best content and rewards should be for those that play together (you know, in an MMO).


High sec has virtually no risk (and paradoxically, ridiculously high reward). The vast majority of the population are almost unaware that each other exist, much less form any cohesive group accomplishing anything together.
Low sec has risk, but since the only unique gameplay it boasts is FW, it is mostly an empty wasteland but for a few FW hubs that matter. There is little reason for anyone else to be there to even reap increased rewards.
Null sec not only has high end resources like moon goo, but it takes a co-ordinated effort by many players to access these rewards. Sov must be ground, towers knocked down and replaced with your own, then defended, timers watched and bills paid. All while in space anyone can enter and blow you up.

So in Eve's current form, yes, null sec should be demonstrably better. (I include W-Space as null sec here)
The current risk/reward balance is broken. High sec offers entirely too much reward for it's given risk level. This causes care bears.
In most games, one cannot simply squat where the newbies are and farm game money.

Should everything be better in null sec? Well offcourse. Risk vs reward. That some people complain that null sec is safer in a way is of no consequence. It is also not true. I do pretty profitable things in null sec. But those activities require constant vigilance. I need to put a cloaked alt to watch a system. I need to watch several intel channels, and be aware if a WH is opening in the system with potential baddies coming out of it. So the risk is considerable, and its a big change from high sec where you can just do your merry stuff without the need to watch out if you play it right.

But i also think EVE is too small. That might seem strange, but with the current powerprojection which seems to be stable despite changes (give or take one region per alliance), there is not much space to divide. Newer groups cant cut out space, and that is not because of sov mechanics, but because there is not enough space. I also think lowsec should be much, much bigger. There are now 5400 knows systems and about 2500 wh systems. I think the amount of systems should be at least 50.000 or even better 100.000. And maybe with smal islands of lowsec/highsec in between all the nullsec. Not only will this lead to more space to develop for smaller factions, but it will also lead to extreme backwater systems for the most daring of explorers in it.

High sec can stay as it is. Maybe move lvl 4 missions to low sec. Or the highsec islands in nullsec in a 100.000 system universe.