EVE General Discussion

If New Eden was big enough that it was possible to go for extremely long lengths of time without seeing anybody else, imagine then how rounded the game becomes.


Yeah I know "Hurf blurf! It's a PVP game hurf blurf!!!!" And so what. That we have to traverse a fatal funnel to get anywhere is un-sandbox. If this very game were to also take on such vast expanses of explorable space with the existing elements of interaction, it would simply be epic. It would be a challenge in itself to see how far you can go.


I know "but... but... you are attacking my sensibilities!! NULLSEC IS EMPTY!!!"


And why is that?

Gates, bubbles, and instalock seboed inties. That's why. Add to the fact that only the blue donut alliance has the resources to move planets worth of mass in seconds and things don't improve (so I don't want to hear an opinion from the narrow perspective of some cap pilot).

Enable ships to dial in system to system warp or traverse space in such manner that is done in Star Wars or Star Trek, and you won't need 2 billion systems.

Just look at what people are doing with bubble-immune interceptors. Were they made bubble immune to better catch players? Hogwash. That would have been valid before Warp-to-zero. No. It's a test, to see if bubble blobbing/camping is what makes nullsec what it is today.

Gates are basically choke points to force people to meet. Getting rid of gates and allowing us to dial specific celestials in system directly would remove those "interaction" points so on one hand "no more sto0pid campers" but on the other no more control over "your" place. Some other ways of tracking opponents would have to be introduced, maybe warp to d-scan ping? This way you could spread your inties in system and have coverage to quickly get tackle on intruders? That would create some strategy thinking and definitely be more interesting to both parties involved in "gate related events" today.

200b is just a headline number to make dumbasses salivate. It's like how starbound has like 400b planets and such. It's all just procedural generation with each being a variant of a theme, with the systems not actually existing until somebody vistis them.

If CCP added procedurally generated solar systems, sure, there would be a large number, far more than anyone could ever visit if they wanted, but they would all be much of a muchness, it would just spread the population out so much that people would rarely meet. What they currently have, which is a fixed number of static systems makes for far more exciting gameplay than "look how many systems can theoretically be generated by our random number generator".

All True.
If there were super highway stargates and 200 billion systems... I guess in that case You'd just enter your target destination into the super highway stargete to get where you want to get.

No fleet would ever completely arrive in the same system at the same time, Having a "Fleet Jump" option would become a priority, FC's could get hanged (literally) for dialing the wrong system.

One typo and you get shot into a star system you don't know and suddenly your only option is to either suicide or to slowboat 100 million jumps back to your home system.... On that point You could also introduce reactor fuel as an energy source. Fun for the whole family, for entire generations of it.

EDIT: Also, it says the possibility of 200 Billion Star systems. Many of which will be so much alike that you wouldn't even be able to tell them apart.

Scanning UI is now great, most common action is most easily accessible, I see no problem with good UI design (which in Eve means a lot). Same thing applies here as in industry UI: you should be better in your trade/activity not because you master counter-intuitive UI but because you know more about your trade/activity.

UI of chess is very simple (take piece from one square, put on another) and yet not everybody can play it even at basic level.

whilst it's nice in theory, I also doubt it would be very practical

500k players does not mean active players, that's generally 30k-50k people

eve just doesn't have the numbers to warrant that number of systems

Please tell us how a galaxy should feel like,
because you are obviously the only one who knows.

So go play with your 12 year old instead of arguing spaceships with us.

We can hope....

You can't be serious... Do you know how long it would take one person to count out loud to one billion? If you counted one number per second to a billion it would take you 31 years, 251 days, 7 hours, 46 minutes, and 39 seconds.. now multiply this by 200. ...more than 6300 years. Think about how much time must be spent on creating each system... even if the only thing that need be done is naming the system.

I, for one, don't like the idea of random systems that have no history and no persistence. Do I want more systems and bigger space.. sure. but I am not going to be unhappy if we never get "200 billion" systems to explore.