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1/ There's only so many SP you can put into missiles before you have near enough maxed it. Caldari-flying pilots who have only Sp in missiles are newbs, or high-sec pve farmers (in which case the Naga isn't for them in the first place).

2/ Caladri pilots aren't limited to caldari ships, and I'd hold you to your wallet that most of them are also skilled on one L gun or another.

3/ There's already enough missile boats in the caldari lineup. And missiles are boring. They are for those too lazy to deal with things like transversal velocity or falloff.

900DPS = 900 BEFORE:

explosion radius difference
sig radius difference
resists
offset in RoF


When it comes to DPS, I do not think it means what you think it means.

one or another is probably projectiles. Rail Naga is fine, its rail moa/ferox/rohk being shown up by everything not fitted with blasters. Really do you think training T2 large rails for the naga is worth training out t2 smalls/mids that are just sp sinks.

My skills are not maxed for torps or hybrid turrets, currently. I am probably going with the oracle due to my current skillset's orientation. However, I would really like the chance to blow in people's faces with torpedoes, even if the ship is paper thin--stealth bombers are paper thin (though, granted, they are stealthy-cloaky). They ought to make the naga viable as either a torp boat or a hybrid boat.

Honestly, CCP, you are getting so much right lately with changes coming out. Don't screw or alienate anymore of your customer base. If people want their brand new tier 3 bc's to melt in 1.5 seconds because they fit super-close range weapons on a ship with underwear-thin tank, then let that be their choice, but I bet a roaming fleet with 10 or 15 nagas included would be a pain to contend with.

Ugh. This thread again. :facepalm:

Why must you people insist on giving the Naga back a terrible, broken weapon system that was removed because it was far too hard for the Naga to actually use in a way that wasn't pathetic?

I have half decent fitting skills and I couldn't fit a torp naga back when it was a torp naga because for some reason, the fitting bonuses it got were royally screwed up. -40% requirements as compared to -95%? What the hell? In addition to this, the Naga couldn't actually apply it's DPS to anything that wasn't a stationary battleship from what it sounds like, and the fact that it needed so many target painters to actually apply what little DPS it could is a sign that, lo and behold, this weapon system did NOT work.

Train for T2 large blasters. Put them on a Naga. Proceed to have a better weapons platform than any torp naga could've been.

Notice I didn't say railguns. That's because most of you nits are only considering rail nagas. There's more than just railguns out there for hybrids.

But rails are where the naga will shine. They have over a 100km targeting range in fleet with decent skils, and their powergrid layout for rails makes it difficult to fit 425s w/ a MWD without using some sort of fitting mod (using anc might be better?)

As for the blaster Naga: that thing is beyond beastly receiving t2 ganglink bonuses. It has amazing blaster range with null, and can actually fit a good tank if you want to without sacrifcing the dmg like the Talos. This is assuming that you aren't tackling in this ship, but instead just bringing the pain. Everyone knows how soft these ships will be, so compensating for that by sacrifcing any potential eWAR you might fit. Hell, downgrading to ions might even be a good idea for even more tracking and easier fitting for more LSEs (I know its sacrificing the sig radius of the ship, but meh).

Someone with a t2 gang booster should really find out how stiff of a tank you can fly with on those things and still put out over 1050 dps with CN anti and 1200 dps with void (these numbers are with 3 mag stabs, 2 mag stabs is 950 and 1060). With null and max skills, it gets 750 dps @ 17 opt (+16 falloff) with 2 mag stabs and 850 dps with 3. Those are EXTREMELY good numbers.

All you nilly-willy missile users need to pickup hybrids, this is one nice change, the naga with a damage bonus and range? You honestly can't ask for much more. Oh btw I trained tech 2 hybrids prior to tech 2 projectiles :)

Traditionally, Caldari ships are missiles or rails. Most people that "pick" Caldari are not aware of the weapon systems or the inherent advantages or disadvantages, and once they discover them its easy enough to cross train to missiles. In other words, your assertion does not ring true.

When the Onyx came out I was ticked it was a missile ship on a hull that the tech I version is rails. But I got over it.

You'll get over this.

And here comes the classic Caldari-no-like-turrets-like-missiles discussion!

What's wrong with using turrets instead? Ok, Caldari are defined by their use of missiles and missiles are really cool, but what's wrong, again? Think on the Naga as a smaller Rokh (they are even similar in appearance): you're getting a pretty cool sniper that most of your enemies will hate. You can also get close to use large-blasters-of-doom. But it's true it should have some launcher hardpoints.

And, as a personal advice, I'd recommend you to write better in the future, in a more open-minded and better composed way, so people won't get angry when you're going "this good this bad". Just an advice.

Totally gutted,i was totally looking forward to the torp naga,please bring it back.