EVE New Citizens Q&A

in the roughly 2 months i've played this game. my alliance and corp has been wardeced 3 times. thats 3 weeks of staying docked up. why should i continue paying for this game i cant play?

So i used to be a highsec carebear.
In my 1st 2 weeks we got wardec'd by people that actively targeted us.
We fought back and had good times and got some nice kills.
I left the game for a while (nothing to do with wardecs) and when i came back i joined a new corp.
We got dec'd. I tried to organise resistance but no one wanted to and they stayed docked up.
My response was 2 fold.
My old main went exploring in out of the way high sec. I never saw any war targets and in any case i scouted my gates.
This char which was my scout for low sec escalations i joined a pvp training corp which then led to me joining a nullsec PVP corp which i am now a leading member of.
I now do minimal carebearing and maximum pvp taking advantage of passive income streams to fund the pvp.
Moving from missions /high sec exploration /wormhole daytrips to PVP was a revalation (this char was a few weeks old at the time). It completely changed EVE for me from a mainly solo /limited corp chat to a group based lively TS with lots of content creators all competing to create fun for everyone.
I owe it all to however war dec'd my old main.

My point OP was i tried 4 different approaches to dealing with the war dec.
Fighting back
Changing where i operated from (far from trade hubs)
Changed what i did (relic /data /wormholes)
Joined a pvp training group.

none of these involved docking up for a week. Maybe you should rethink your strategy?
You may find as i did whole new areas of gameplay open up and that some of them you may enjoy more than what you do currently.
Or you could make an alt and leave it in an npc corp. Make sure it does something totally different to your main. ie trading /manufacturing/ FW/ pirate/ explorer/ wormhole /whatever. Then you will never need to worry about wardecs.

I'm always sad when a corp's response to a wardec is to just dock up. The other posters have given good advise on your options.

If your opponents have truly overwhelming force, personally I'd go to low sec, or into a WH... High sec wardec corps aren't normally interested in following there, unless they have a serious reason to pursue you. (There would have to be a pretty serious reason for the war, not just a casual dec.)

Both places are more profitable than high sec, and would give a chance for your corp to train pvp skills, which your corp would seem to be lacking in, if they are not willing or able to fight. Depending on the skill level of your corp mates, WH space might be a bit much, but working as a team, you could probably handle a C1, even with very low skills.

Edit: It's worth mentioning that many of the people you'll run into in low-sec or WH's are quite willing to teach new players a thing or two about pvp. Not everyone, of course, but you might be surprised at how friendly both places can be, if you show a willingness to fight and learn. If you go to low sec and die, strike up a conversation with your killer - after you save your pod...

This. I will first kill you... then teach you how to kill others if you are nice enough. Such is the way of things in low-sec.

Whoops, I meant to Edit D:

lol

To them, you exist to be killed. Over and over again. You are no match for them, and you may not be for 3 or 4 years. They get their jollies by killing you. For them, the game is simple. You are just another red plus sign.

Going to low sec or to a wormhole ... bad advice. You will die. They exist there only to kill you. Over and over again.

At two months you barely have the skills to kill Dagan -- an NPC in an Epic Arc Mission. Not very likely you can take on a real Person Character.

The reality is that you actually don't exist to make them happy. It's not your job. Just think of them as a very well written Artificial Intelligence. Now, as you play the game, you win simply by doing the gazillions of things that can be done, and avoid being killed. You will learn a lot. And you will spoil their days.

One day you may decide to grief noobies. And that's fine, I guess, because you will CHOOSE that path. But for now, playing smart is something you can do almost from the gitgo ... and it pisses them off no end.

You should find another corp, though. Or get friends involved in the game and form your own corp. The Corp's purpose is to help you have fun.

For the price, you can't find a game with a better AI. ;)

One method to make the cost to declare war on your corporation a wasted investment is to remake your corporation.

Since you are allowed to not want to PvP, you can take the step necessary to avoid it, which is remake the corporation.

Perhaps through continuously remaking your corporation, the aggressors will tire of wasting their isk and instead look to declare war on a corporation which has an actual desire to participate in one.

But of course, those corps declaring war on you probably aren't looking for legitimate fights, and only easy targets, which is a problem with the psychology of EvE players.

As a newbie you're not meant to have the skills to solo Dagan, the whole point of that particular mission is to introduce the concept of asking for help if you need it.

As for the rest of your post? Meh, newbies can be effective in PvP from day one, especially if they team up with others. Attitude + numbers > SP.

Dagon can easily be killed at 2 days old.
You can be a reasonable frig or destroyer pilot in a few hours and after a few weeks within a few percent of someone years old.
This char was pvping in low and null from 3 weeks old and many in my corp were younger. One was in null within an hour of starting eve for the first time.
You might not be getting solo kills without a bit of practice but it is totally doable.
I have an alt using dual char training that for a few plex has AF 5 and is training gun skills to max atm.
PVP is not just for veterans esp if you have friends.

Strategy at its most basic level is being there firstest with the mostest as the saying goes.

War is not a series of one vs. one fights. Group up fight, and take names. You'll make mistakes at first, but when you start fighting 3 on 1 enough times, you'll learn to win no matter what disparity there may be in your skill points.