Player Features and Ideas Discussion

We have Stealth Bombers, which are frigates that fire extremely oversize weapons. They also have bombs which do great damage to subcaps.


Now let's make a Covert OPs Cruiser or BC that's only effective against Supercaps: The Submarine Class.


They fit Citadel CRUISE Launchers, and each one has a stacking debuff that it's missiles reduces the resistances of the target upon impact. Make it so no ship could be reduced below 50% of the their original resistances. Amarr submarines would reduce EM resistance per salvo, Caldari would reduce Kinetic, Gallente reduces thermal resist, Mimatar explosive, etc.

They would also come with a "Nuke." It would be too large to carry in cargo and only one could be pre-fitted to the launcher. It would be as powerful as a Doomsday and each "nuke" would have a racial effect. Amarr nukes would drain cap, Caldari nukes would jam target (regardless of ewar immunity), Gallente nukes would drop scan res and targeting range by 75% for 1 minute, Minimatar would reduce tracking and optimal range for 1 minute.

These ships must be pretty thin, a cruiser sized tank and sig radius.

Allow them to target hostiles while cloaked. Unlike other covert ops, these ships cannot recloak for at least 3 minutes after they break cloak if they fit a Nuke Launcher (this would give them the option to not fit Nuke Launchers in order to recloak as soon as other covert ops).

In order to make the Sig radius difference between Caps and Supercaps actually mean something, let the the damage of the nuke scale with Sig Radius, such that Titans receive 100% damage and Carriers/Dreads take about 25%ish damage. Subcaps would take negligible damage.

How can you abuse it? It's easily killed by subcaps. God forbid you need more than 20 subcaps (19 of which are Hictors, a cruiser class that's also for fighting supercaps) in your Supercap fleet to assist you.

I was thinking making it a Destroyer hull instead. Thin as a dictor, but even slower.

The problem is that I don't want them to be "tankable" such that they could be used against subcaps, BB's and Marauders in particular.

Destroyers don't have a covert role yet.

So I can fit a doomsday to a subcap



Okay I warp in 10,000 of these and instantly obliterate every capital off the battlefield, then self-destruct the ships and pods. I still win the isk war in half a second.



*Snip* Please refrain from using profanity. ISD Ezwal.

Do you even think about what this does to doctrinal warfare before you start opening your mouth?

Using the suggested hulls doesn't make them unreasonably tankable. Besides, Citadel Cruise are as big as Battleships... lol

No. Especially if it's very easy to kill with a subcap fleet.

Cost should not be a balancing factor.

And why do you think they've been rebuilding the whole game from the ground up? Because eventually they will reach your precious Supercaps and somehow or another make them simultaneously vulnerable to subcap fleets and reliant on more subcap support.

In a fleet of a 500-1000, there should never be more than 10-20 Supercaps on the field. This submarine class would ensure that, and would guarantee that the most organized and fleet with the best communications and tactics woudl win.

I think nothing strikes more fear in you than the loss of the status quo where the "riff-raff" of EvE (most of the players) cannot threaten you. Rest assured that CPP will indeed obliterate the status quo, even if (and most likely) it has nothing in common with this idea.

Well I originally did suggested cruiser hull, but someone else insinuated it should be smaller. The term "cruiser" is still in the OP.

This BC of yours would have to have something that truly affected the hostile supercap. Having each salvo reduces it's resistances would be the best bet. Overtime, this would add to more damage (from all ships in your fleet doing more damage) than a nuke.

What if the enemy do the same?