These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

CCP and Their Special Snowflakes

First post
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Aralyn Cormallen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#301 - 2014-04-17 08:42:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Aralyn Cormallen
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Nice try but in the post I made I specifically stated "in a non-violent way". A stern telling off is not something you get banned over.


You mean you took deliberately actions, and used specific wording to keep within the exact wording of the EULA? Pretty fortunate that that has always saved people from getting a ban!
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#302 - 2014-04-17 08:43:35 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

It doesn't matter if the GM's agree or not.


Sixth rule of being Infinity Ziona:

"No authority is important unless it agrees with me".

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#303 - 2014-04-17 08:44:39 UTC
Tuhikya wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Guys I'm really getting kind of freaked out here. Now he's talking about sicking vicious dogs on people. I've never experienced this sort of bullying and abuse before. Who should I call about it? Is there some sort of hotline for victims of bullying? I'm just playing a video game and now some guy is going to "give me a stern talking to" with his wife beater shirt, big muscles and vicious dogs. This is just beyond the pale. Really no choice here. I'm going to have to call:

Ripard Teg, Dog Catcher.


I can see how you are now scared to attend fanfest ... clearly the Infinity snowflake cannot separate a game from real life ... making veiled threats of "setting the dogs on you" is unacceptable .... unless they were slaver hounds of course

Actually that post was specifically in response to a personal attack in which the person personally attacking me inferred that when I drink I go crazy. My response was that I rarely drink, am not violent and the only one to be worried about was my dog.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#304 - 2014-04-17 08:44:55 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

It doesn't matter if the GM's agree or not.


Sixth rule of being Infinity Ziona:

"No authority is important unless it agrees with me".


We are on number 7, sir.

Just saying.

Blink

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Solecist Project
#305 - 2014-04-17 08:45:53 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

It doesn't matter if the GM's agree or not.


Sixth rule of being Infinity Ziona:

"No authority is important unless it agrees with me".

I imagine him standing in front of his computer now,
posing like The Rock,
screaming...


IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!!!!!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#306 - 2014-04-17 08:48:19 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

It doesn't matter if the GM's agree or not.


Sixth rule of being Infinity Ziona:

"No authority is important unless it agrees with me".

I imagine him standing in front of his computer now,
posing like The Rock,
screaming...


IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!!!!!


Watch out now.

Don't get him angry.

You wouldn't like it if he gets angry.

Shocked

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#307 - 2014-04-17 08:49:03 UTC
Tuhikya wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Guys I'm really getting kind of freaked out here. Now he's talking about sicking vicious dogs on people. I've never experienced this sort of bullying and abuse before. Who should I call about it? Is there some sort of hotline for victims of bullying? I'm just playing a video game and now some guy is going to "give me a stern talking to" with his wife beater shirt, big muscles and vicious dogs. This is just beyond the pale. Really no choice here. I'm going to have to call:

Ripard Teg, Dog Catcher.


I can see how you are now scared to attend fanfest ... clearly the Infinity snowflake cannot separate a game from real life ... making veiled threats of "setting the dogs on you" is unacceptable .... unless they were slaver hounds of course

Also the reason this thread exists is because someone, likely Kaalrous, decided to make 3 alts and harass me, inferring I am a pedophile in real life.

If things had been kept in game, then things would have remained in game. If you attack me in real life then yes I will confront you, in a non-violent manner, at fanfest and ask you what your problem is. That is the right of every citizen. Or are you saying you can get banned for discussing defamatory comments with the person who made them IRL?

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#308 - 2014-04-17 08:49:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Infinity Ziona wrote:
It doesn't matter if the GM's agree or not.
Sure it does. It's what determines the outcome of your petition.
Just because you see it one way doesn't mean you are in the right and that the GMs will rule in your favour.

Quote:
CCP do not get to pick and choose which clauses they enforce and which ones they don't.
…and guess who's deciding whether or not you or the other guy is in breach of a clause and in need of enforcement? Guess whose assessment of the situation is what determines the outcome? If they determine that it's not harassment but just two people competing for space, the harassment clause is not applicable. And again, you have no way of determining what happens on the other side as far as the mutual mud-slinging goes — you got slapped for your part so what makes you think that he didn't get slapped for his?

Quote:
If things had been kept in game, then things would have remained in game.
As far as we can tell, it has been kept in-game. No out-of-game harassment is taking place, and if it does, it's something you should take to your local law enforcement agency anyway.
Solecist Project
#309 - 2014-04-17 08:50:34 UTC
So Kal now attacked you in real life!

IN! REAL LIFE!

Kal, can you teach me how to do that through my screen?

This will make you richer than Bill Gates ever was!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#310 - 2014-04-17 08:51:18 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Tuhikya wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Guys I'm really getting kind of freaked out here. Now he's talking about sicking vicious dogs on people. I've never experienced this sort of bullying and abuse before. Who should I call about it? Is there some sort of hotline for victims of bullying? I'm just playing a video game and now some guy is going to "give me a stern talking to" with his wife beater shirt, big muscles and vicious dogs. This is just beyond the pale. Really no choice here. I'm going to have to call:

Ripard Teg, Dog Catcher.


I can see how you are now scared to attend fanfest ... clearly the Infinity snowflake cannot separate a game from real life ... making veiled threats of "setting the dogs on you" is unacceptable .... unless they were slaver hounds of course

Also the reason this thread exists is because someone, likely Kaalrous, decided to make 3 alts and harass me, inferring I am a pedophile in real life.

If things had been kept in game, then things would have remained in game. If you attack me in real life then yes I will confront you, in a non-violent manner, at fanfest and ask you what your problem is. That is the right of every citizen. Or are you saying you can get banned for discussing defamatory comments with the person who made them IRL?


Out of curiosity, in all of these pages......

Has that proof happened to pop up yet?

Exactly.

Roll

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#311 - 2014-04-17 08:51:37 UTC
Only person taking this into RL here is you. I am surprised you didn't wish cancer on all of us yet.

Invalid signature format
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#312 - 2014-04-17 08:51:45 UTC
*Southern accent, engage!*

Now, I'm not some fancy space lawyer, but it seems to me that the New Terms of Service forbid accusing someone of being someone else's alt. How do ya'll feel about that?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#313 - 2014-04-17 08:52:02 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
What I have decided to do is write an official letter of complaint to CCP as they have breached their side of the EULA

there is no 'their side', it's an end user licence agreement
Quote:
As an original EvE Online subscriber, a loyal customer for over 10 years and someone who supported them in the early years I think I deserve
the exact same rights as any other subscriber
Quote:
I haven't broken any rules,

TOS rule one: You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes ... implying favoritism by a CCP Employee.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#314 - 2014-04-17 08:52:10 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
It doesn't matter if the GM's agree or not.
Sure it does. It's what determines the outcome of your petition.
Just because you see it one way doesn't mean you are in the right and that the GMs will rule in your favour.

Quote:
CCP do not get to pick and choose which clauses they enforce and which ones they don't.
…and guess who's deciding whether or not you or the other guy is in breach of a clause and in need of enforcement? Guess whose assessment of the situation is what determines the outcome? If they determine that it's not harassment but just two people competing for space, the harassment clause is not applicable. And again, you have no way of determining what happens on the other side as far as the mutual mud-slinging goes — you got slapped for your part so what makes you think that he didn't get slapped for his?

The law decides. That's why we have contract law. CCP makes an agreement with the users, they MUST stick to that agreement, as much as the user must stick to that agreement. There is no scope for selective picking and choosing in regards to which clause they do and do not enforce.

It goes like this:

Statute law
Common or Judge Made Law
Contract Law
CCP's Law.

CCP's law is the lowest form of law.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#315 - 2014-04-17 08:52:37 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
So Kal now attacked you in real life!

IN! REAL LIFE!

Kal, can you teach me how to do that through my screen?

This will make you richer than Bill Gates ever was!


It's like super-virtual reality.

**** Oculus Rift.

I want what Kal has.

Imagine the tear harvest.

Twisted

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#316 - 2014-04-17 08:52:44 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
So Kal now attacked you in real life!

IN! REAL LIFE!

Kal, can you teach me how to do that through my screen?

This will make you richer than Bill Gates ever was!


I wish I knew. My dad once told a tech support guy that if he didn't quit transferring him, he would jump through the phone and strangle him. Maybe I inherited this power?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#317 - 2014-04-17 08:54:12 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
So Kal now attacked you in real life!

IN! REAL LIFE!

Kal, can you teach me how to do that through my screen?

This will make you richer than Bill Gates ever was!


It's like super-virtual reality.

**** Oculus Rift.

I want what Kal has.

Imagine the tear harvest.

Twisted


http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--xGK8wAs---/19277eg9df4cijpg.jpg

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
UAxSunShine
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#318 - 2014-04-17 08:54:53 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Also the reason this thread exists is because someone, likely Kaalrous, decided to make 3 alts and harass me, inferring I am a pedophile in real life.

If things had been kept in game, then things would have remained in game. If you attack me in real life then yes I will confront you, in a non-violent manner, at fanfest and ask you what your problem is. That is the right of every citizen. Or are you saying you can get banned for discussing defamatory comments with the person who made them IRL?



No smoke without fire.

And I heard the internet is serious business. Didn't your mother teach you just to ignore people if you don't like what they are saying?
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#319 - 2014-04-17 08:54:58 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
So Kal now attacked you in real life!

IN! REAL LIFE!

Kal, can you teach me how to do that through my screen?

This will make you richer than Bill Gates ever was!


I wish I knew. My dad once told a tech support guy that if he didn't quit transferring him, he would jump through the phone and strangle him. Maybe I inherited this power?


Remember what Ben said about power, Kal....

Always remember.

Blink

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#320 - 2014-04-17 08:55:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Infinity Ziona wrote:
The law decides.
Actually, when it comes to enforcing the EULA, the GMs decide.
Apparently, they have decided that they don't agree with your assessment of the situation.

Quote:
CCP makes an agreement with the users, they MUST stick to that agreement, as much as the user must stick to that agreement.
…and nothing here suggests that they're not doing that.
Just because they don't agree with your assessment doesn't mean that they have broken any agreement between the two of you.