Intergalactic Summit

An interesting offer.

But alas, i must decline. Don't think the wife would approve of such a choice.
Not to mention Sansha coffee tastes funny.

Aye, that seems about appropriate for the paroxysms of pomp and joy this announcement has provoked.

Fascinating. The idealized Sansha path involves race-baiting and actively insulting those you'd wish to harvest and enslave. Truly, you bring salvation to us because you weep for our benighted ways and lives. So noble!

But with all due respect, duty and faith have no value without choice. There is no nobility, no goodness of purpose when one is rendered an automaton, when one's free will is subjugated to-- what, the hive mind? To Sansha's ghost in the machine?

In what way do you differ from rogue drones? The facsimile of sentience and free will that you present as proof of your dead master's good will serves-- what purpose? Is there any depth to it? Or is this simply another ploy in the megalomaniacal effort of a madman to subject New Eden to his will?

I do believe that you understand what it is to be a part of the Masters Plan. Through him comes the enlightenment that others can only dream of, Master Kuvakei is living proof of our faith made manifest! It was our choice to answer Master Kuvakei's call, and by doing such we have seen the glory that could be. It is our choice to bring this message to the galaxy, no different then the Missionary's of old.

Like all people in the galaxy we have our faults, our hopes, and our dreams. These ambitions, are the things that make up our independence, and our ability to recognize them proves that we retain our free will and independence just the same as the rest of you. As far as race-baiting i find it quiite offensive that your could accuse Val of being a hateful, mean spirited person. She has been nothing but kind to me, she helped me find my way to Nation. She helped me find a place to live, a purpose to be. She gave me a ship when no one else would, she is the type of people that make up Nation. Kind, compassionate, and caring, just like Master kuvakei she is an example to all of us.

For Nation

How strange that you argue so fervently from a conflicted position.

You are Brutor and attacking Siikanen by maligning Matari custom she hadn't referenced, and yet you argue in favor of post-identity, post-factional humanity-- saying, essentially, that you are... post-Brutor? And yet couldn't possibly be race-baiting because you are Brutor? How-- strange.

You argue, further, that you are saving humanity from itself, that you are saving us from the trap that is volition-- but isn't free will and conscious thought the very thing that gives art and science value? Wasn't Sansha trying to create an idealized society to relieve artists and scientists from toil, that they may create without burden? But what value is this society without the ability to create art, to appreciate art? How can this society function without will, independence, and without the very divisions you seek to eradicate? How are you saving humanity, glorying in perfected human spirit when your aim is explicitly for post-humanity, and seeks the eradication of the very trial that give our lives purpose?

....so you're dissapointed everyone is doing it wrong and intend to force them to do it right by shooting them so that they can live in a future free of shooting.

....mkay.

I do not believe that anyone is forced to join the nation, i know that i was not. Val offered to let me come and live at Stain for a time, which was quite generous given the disarray my life was in. Well after i arrived and saw the Nation myself i was amazed. The first night i found it difficult to fall asleep in a new and unfamiliar place, but when i awoke the next morning everything was different. I had found my true calling, i knew what i must do. It makes me happy to be part of something more, something greater, and i only hope that i can in some small way help the galaxy reach eternal peace.

As painful as it is to be away from my new home in Stain, i travel the galaxy with my new friends to bring the message i have learned from Master Kuvakei. A message of peace and love. We are simply pilgrims, or missionary only wishing to bring people the same joy we have found. But what would you have us do when we are meet with open hostility? Should we do nothing and be destroyed? Do we not have the right to defend ourselves? Our great Sovereign Nation is being persecuted and i for one can not sit back and allow my people to endure more suffering then is needed! I only wish that we could spread our message peacefully without the open hostility that often shown to us.

You question my free will? I could do the same to you, I was born to the Caldari Empire. I was shunned even by my own parents. The only thing i did wrong was think for myself, I saw the problems inherit to the system. I saw the poor suffer so that me and my parents could have the life we did, I saw people die in hospitals, and on the streets simply because they could not afford the bills. It was horrible, and i spoke out against it. For this i was cast aside, i could not find work, my parents would not speak to me. So i left, The Nation is the first place that I have lived that treats its citizens fairly. So no i have my free will, I make my choices. It is you all that have had your minds warped and controlled by the system. Come see The Nation for yourself so that you can know enlightenment and free will.

It's sad, I know, but I would take the nation over New order any day. They're less annoying.

Tuulinen, I suspect she grew up as one of the Disassociated, perhaps in an under-developed region where proper competitive forces hadn't brought into play the benefits the vast majority of citizens take for granted. This left her disaffected, and an easy mark for the bald-faced lie that is Sansha utopianism. I'm sure there's some documented affect for this-- something not unlike when some angry teenager flees home, and is taken in by a con who promises a better life in a brothel.

edit; found it! Damsel Syndrome. At least, that's what some runners near Malkalen told me it was. I'll do some more research.