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Dueling Area?

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masternerdguy
Doomheim
#21 - 2014-04-15 23:43:50 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
There are countless threads asking for "arenas".

None of them have been answered. WHY HAVE THEY FORSAKEN US? Cry


Arenas are inherently anti-sandbox.

Things are only impossible until they are not.

Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2014-04-15 23:49:18 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
There are countless threads asking for "arenas".

None of them have been answered. WHY HAVE THEY FORSAKEN US? Cry


Arenas are inherently anti-sandbox.


In her defense, she's not asking for an arena. She's thinking of offering one. That's quite a different story. (And it's in the spirit of the sandbox, if she can make it work.)
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#23 - 2014-04-15 23:51:24 UTC
Cassandra Aurilien wrote:
masternerdguy wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
There are countless threads asking for "arenas".

None of them have been answered. WHY HAVE THEY FORSAKEN US? Cry


Arenas are inherently anti-sandbox.


In her defense, she's not asking for an arena. She's thinking of offering one. That's quite a different story. (And it's in the spirit of the sandbox, if she can make it work.)


Running an arena business in-EVE is fine and you already have all the tools you need. However, I posted that because some people want easy-mode Arenas that have game mechanics enforcing their honor code.

Things are only impossible until they are not.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#24 - 2014-04-15 23:52:12 UTC
Cassandra Aurilien wrote:
masternerdguy wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
There are countless threads asking for "arenas".

None of them have been answered. WHY HAVE THEY FORSAKEN US? Cry


Arenas are inherently anti-sandbox.


In her defense, she's not asking for an arena. She's thinking of offering one. That's quite a different story. (And it's in the spirit of the sandbox, if she can make it work.)



Can fighting be done inside of a POS shield?

Ah... but if that was the solution, OGB would have to be impossible through a POS shield... or is it? I recall some torrents of tears over that topic roughly a year ago.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#25 - 2014-04-15 23:52:44 UTC
I'm So Pretty wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
We also need a new race introduced. Something with fur...in a black and white combo.

We also need some kind of place where new players can safely level up, like a forest of some sorts, populated with easy to kill creatures like boars.

We also need some kind of button, preferably in the esc menu, that allows you to 'Go back to WoW'.

Your trolls are usually hilarious. On occasion though, you decide to post before actually reading the thread and end up looking more stupid than funny. P


So your saying that you are unable to provide the Eve community with the above requests as well? Well..your services seem rather limited then.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Chu Ni
Moon Bunnies
#26 - 2014-04-15 23:58:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Chu Ni
Tippia wrote:
No.

The duel mechanism already offers what you want and if you can't get anyone to bite, then that should tell you something.



people want to duel, its just hard to find them. thats why i thought it would be a good idea. if everyone knows that there is a corporation in X system that has duels, people will gather there (theoretically) and it will be people dueling each other without the hours of constantly looking for someone to duel. believe it or not some people don't want to only PvP or even enter lowsec areas. this would give them the opportunity to have a pvp experience without being ganked by 10 battle-cruisers at a stargate or even just one cruiser when they are in a frigate. It is also for people who want to PvP but can't get the hang of it because they have no practice because of these gankers or others who attack them immediately upon entering a lowsec area.


Edit: this "service" of sorts would also offer a way for people to test a ship's full potential without having to worry about having to keep someone locked down with scramblers and such. not saying it would be banned from the duel but you wouldn't have to have a scrambler because you would win even if they warp out. (unless you wanted their cargo)
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#27 - 2014-04-16 00:02:05 UTC
Chu Ni wrote:
Tippia wrote:
No.

The duel mechanism already offers what you want and if you can't get anyone to bite, then that should tell you something.



people want to duel, its just hard to find them. thats why i thought it would be a good idea. if everyone knows that there is a corporation in X system that has duels, people will gather there (theoretically) and it will be people dueling each other without the hours of constantly looking for someone to duel. believe it or not some people don't want to only PvP or even enter lowsec areas. this would give them the opportunity to have a pvp experience without being ganked by 10 battle-cruisers at a stargate or even just one cruiser when they are in a frigate. It is also for people who want to PvP but can't get the hang of it because they have no practice because of these gankers or others who attack them immediately upon entering a lowsec area.



I've noted that every time I go to Jita in a PVP fit someone sends a duel challenge.

Of course, that's Jita and I'm not stupid.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#28 - 2014-04-16 00:17:44 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
I would refer the OP to the concept of Herding Cats

http://youtu.be/Pk7yqlTMvp8
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#29 - 2014-04-16 00:25:03 UTC
Tippia wrote:
No.

The duel mechanism already offers what you want and if you can't get anyone to bite, then that should tell you something.

Also, F&I →


Not just F&I but things like this can already be found in 'In-Game Events and Gatherings'. If you(OP) want to run events such as this I'd suggest first participating in some of the existing player/corp/alliance-run events that take place already.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2014-04-16 00:30:52 UTC
Chu Ni wrote:
Tippia wrote:
No.

The duel mechanism already offers what you want and if you can't get anyone to bite, then that should tell you something.



people want to duel, its just hard to find them. thats why i thought it would be a good idea. if everyone knows that there is a corporation in X system that has duels, people will gather there (theoretically) and it will be people dueling each other without the hours of constantly looking for someone to duel. believe it or not some people don't want to only PvP or even enter lowsec areas. this would give them the opportunity to have a pvp experience without being ganked by 10 battle-cruisers at a stargate or even just one cruiser when they are in a frigate. It is also for people who want to PvP but can't get the hang of it because they have no practice because of these gankers or others who attack them immediately upon entering a lowsec area.


Edit: this "service" of sorts would also offer a way for people to test a ship's full potential without having to worry about having to keep someone locked down with scramblers and such. not saying it would be banned from the duel but you wouldn't have to have a scrambler because you would win even if they warp out. (unless you wanted their cargo)


It doesn't hurt to try. I'm sure there are people interested in fights where there is guaranteed to be no OGB, or other outside interference. (Without forfeiture of their stake.)

I doubt it will be easy, you'd need to get enough people interested to have fights on a regular basis, as well as enough of a reputation that people trust you. A reputation as a competent pvp pilot wouldn't hurt as well.

Good luck!




Chu Ni
Moon Bunnies
#31 - 2014-04-16 01:00:46 UTC
Cassandra Aurilien wrote:


It doesn't hurt to try. I'm sure there are people interested in fights where there is guaranteed to be no OGB, or other outside interference. (Without forfeiture of their stake.)

I doubt it will be easy, you'd need to get enough people interested to have fights on a regular basis, as well as enough of a reputation that people trust you. A reputation as a competent pvp pilot wouldn't hurt as well.

Good luck!






well thats why i made this thread to see if enough would be interested and also because i would need help myself since i cant be on all the time and since It's just me and my brother in my corp atm Sad
Solecist Project
#32 - 2014-04-16 01:04:35 UTC
It's easy to find them.

Use the map.


Where are the most people? Go there.
Where are the most player ships exploding? Go there.

Or join RvB.



You want a solution for a problem that has been solved long ago.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Chu Ni
Moon Bunnies
#33 - 2014-04-16 01:18:10 UTC
1. I refuse to join RvB because large corporations are boring unless you are really high ranked in them, its just too many people to deal with.
2. I'm not trying to find a solution to a problem that was already solved. I was simply asking if the solution that had been found was a popular one that people would be willing to participate in or join me in creating.
3. I like lists, keeps everything neat and stuffs
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#34 - 2014-04-16 01:30:02 UTC
CCP can't seem to understand that customers are walking away because they don't like, or can't, spend 3 hours at a stretch (or 8 if you want to sov grind) at a keyboard. CCP needs to create a 1v1 arena PvP where people can spend 15 minutes getting having a great time, recharging the batteries for those long grinds and roams.
Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2014-04-16 01:35:56 UTC
KIller Wabbit wrote:
CCP can't seem to understand that customers are walking away because they don't like, or can't, spend 3 hours at a stretch (or 8 if you want to sov grind) at a keyboard. CCP needs to create a 1v1 arena PvP where people can spend 15 minutes getting having a great time, recharging the batteries for those long grinds and roams.


No. They don't. Go to STO, if that is what you want. Many people would leave if they saw that come into play. (Myself, included.)

Alternatively, if you want a duel arena, help the OP to set one up. In game, using in game resources.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#36 - 2014-04-16 01:40:39 UTC
KIller Wabbit wrote:
CCP can't seem to understand that customers are walking away because they don't like, or can't, spend 3 hours at a stretch (or 8 if you want to sov grind) at a keyboard. CCP needs to create a 1v1 arena PvP where people can spend 15 minutes getting having a great time, recharging the batteries for those long grinds and roams.



Here's what you can do:

Set up in a system next door to a "dangerous" system. Villore for example, right next to Old Man Star.

Skill up for one particular ship and fitting. With proper skill planning you can be very effective with a small ship and still stay in a very cheap clone, even at all level 4s and hitting level 5 skills on all of your (1X) skills which can be done relatively fast.

The kinds of ships that you can consider are those that are popular with PVP. Much is said of the Rifter and there's even a "Pirate's Guide" for it. The Incursus comes to mind. If you want to go "high stakes" later, you can even pick a hull that has a comparable Assault Frigate version so when you get Frigate 5 you can train AF and be in the same skill vector that you already built up flying your cheaper ships.


Set up a pile of ships in the station next to the dangerous system. Fit them all ahead of time, one kind of fitting too, or variable to your liking (what, am I supposed to do everything?).

Go into dangerous system and get into fights.

If you get podded, you are right there in the next system with a ship ready to go - don't forget to upgrade your clone before you undock again.

Otherwise if not, and in a dangerous lowsec system it's not so likely to get podded (base out of Torrinos and play in EC-P8R if you want to get podded more) run back and get another ship.

And that's as close as you get to an arena and a respawn point. Cheap ships and cheap clones you can probably feed your habit with an hour of L4 mission running a day or PI or maybe even Market Fu.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#37 - 2014-04-16 01:42:18 UTC
Chu Ni wrote:
1. I refuse to join RvB because large corporations are boring unless you are really high ranked in them, its just too many people to deal with.
2. I'm not trying to find a solution to a problem that was already solved. I was simply asking if the solution that had been found was a popular one that people would be willing to participate in or join me in creating.
3. I like lists, keeps everything neat and stuffs

Probably not since this isn't one of those games (e.g. WoW, GW2 etc). If you had more experience with it, you could possibly organize something along those lines as you suggest. But then those that organize the many tournaments that go on in New Eden, having experience with it, a strong level of dedication over months and even years, well I'm sure would tell you it's still not an easy thing to do and especially from a forum thread in the wrong forum.

But if you seek the experience required to do such things, well I mentioned a starting place for getting proactive in the community which does those things. Even participating in related events could give you insights, such as RvB open roams or even the EVE Live event going on as I write this response. But there is no instant gratification in this game, all things you must work your way up too, including social engineering and such. Lucks.

I'm in it for the money

Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12

Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2014-04-16 01:57:47 UTC
It could work, just try it!

A chat channel is a good starting point.

The 'Arena' could be any spot in Jita system: max traffic, easy to reship.

Just find a small bunch of guys that wanna blow eachother up in arranged fights in highsec and duel away, inviting people to watch and make bets. It could grow from there.

Good luck!

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!

Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#39 - 2014-04-16 02:47:29 UTC
Just get out of highsec.

Problem solved. All the duels you can ever want and no need to even ask.
Chu Ni
Moon Bunnies
#40 - 2014-04-16 02:52:32 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Just get out of highsec.

Problem solved. All the duels you can ever want and no need to even ask.


You funny