EVE General Discussion

Well EXCUUUUUUUUUUUSE MEEEEEEEEE!!

Yeah, I read Mr Hoity-Toity. But I usually dont waste my time on garbage. If the supernatural-menstrual theme is your thing, fine. But your tastes doesnt make you any smarter. Google WOD and you will see 99.99% pics of vampires and or blood.

Ye don't do that. Code people are not Hoity-Toity, they're troll slagging so you'll bite and insult the rest of the WoD fans, just to rub things in. Tbh reading what the WoD fans have said over the years, it did sound like an interesting concept - mainly because CCP are smart enough to pull off well thought out games.

Those of you stooping to Twilight and Buffy sideswipe references need to remember - vamps are sexy - and you got Firefly out of it, so shut your dirty mouths. If you don't enjoy sucking, go spin your ship or w/e. RSI Nerds.

You shurrup now. You're wearing a dress fgs.

We're having a moment of silence for fallen devs. And Falcon, poor boy, I bet his buttocks are red.

Gwan now, show some repect. And wash your face!

To be honest, if I were a game developer struggling in some way with an ambitious game project (motivation, financially, ...), I'd be very tempted to just give up after seeing the kind of cheap, simplistic crap that succeeds in the game market nowdays: Angry Birds, Flappy Bird ... Might just as well sit down and slap something together for the mobile market in 2 weeks and retire.

"Pong" ...the MMO.

Actually the history of vampires is much more deep than that. Most every culture on the face of the planet has some sort of vampiric story and many of them are not even close to the 'Calssic Vampires' you speak of. Also, the 'modern vampire' you speak of was actually created in fiction by John William Polidori in his book The Vampyre which was published in 1819.

EDIT: I do not want to get too deep into it, but you may actually find that morticians have an odd fascination with the bodies they work with. I am not implying necrophelia by any means, but many of them look at what they do as art, and if they have a canvas that is already beautiful to begin with you may find that what response you expect to get are not what you would get.

It is better to have tried and failed than to never have tried at all. The people hired to make this project a reality and subsequently laid off have my sympathies. On the bright side, they have experience under their belt, which is what most employers look for anyways. All CCP can do now is move on and hopefully learn many things from this experience.

Hopefully the folks who have been laid off manage to find employment elsewhere. Must be awful to see years of your work swept away from under your feet without getting to see it finished.

Good luck in the future to those effected by this bad news.

I'm kinda happy they've ditched it because at some point you just have to admit a certain project was a failure and it's just a waste of time and money to continue it. I'm not saying CCP couldn't make it work, or that WoD is impossible to make - I just think the two didn't mix together.

Some points however:
- Underworld and Twilight were successful because they were a rip off of ideas V:TM introduced. Not the other way around. WW was brilliant about revitalizing the entire vampire and werewolves thing. They sucked a bit when they introduced this teenager friendly, emo-like edition, but I was happy to ignore it, and keep my old handbooks even now. (when you look at the various editions - it's a great start like the True Blood 1st season was, then a downslope to what the current episodes are)

- CCP's mindset when it comes to innovation and stretching is hilarious. If I was to develop Valkyrie and Dust I would be 100% sure to get my existing playerbase into it. You get free promotion (and tons of it) when your players talk among themselves about "THE NEW GAME !!!1!!". This is how Blizzard operates and seriously - you will never get better at sucking your customers dry. Do you imagine them releasing Diablo III without pc support? If so - how much money do you think Diablo III would make? Stop being delusional, and make games instead of trying to prove stuff. No one cares if you are einteins of game development. I want a good game I can play, and not a company half a world away I could be proud of.

Valkyrie will be on PC at least. It's a project started purely in-house by CCP (though i suspect they did get some funding from Sony afterall).

The reason Dust isn't on PC (yet, i expect an announcement for that at fanfest) is because Sony actually funded large parts of the game as part of an exclusivity deal. CCP doesn't have full control over where Dust can be deployed at the moment, though i fully expect this exclusivity to be timed so that it passes to at least the PS4 and probably the PC.

Dust on PC however adds some difficulties - Cheating is so very very easy in shooters and you want to do everything you can to prevent Dust from being abused as an easy moneymaker, or inluence on EVE itself. While cheating is not impossible on consoles, it is significantly harder at least.