EVE General Discussion

What?

CCP failing to deliver something?

How usuall.

To the employees laid off. I wish you good luck and good hunting.

To the people who were looking forward to the game, I am sighing with you.

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Sorry to hear this, best of luck to everyone who was involved and hope you find new awesome spots for your great talent!

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Why do people insist on pretending that they know what's going on?

- CCP Falcon did not want to go into rumors before the actual information has been personally discussed with the people affected by it. Would you want to find out you're being fired via Reddit or via the people you work for? It's a simple matter of courtesy which is blown way over proportion.

- WiS was not the reason for the 2011 riots, Greed is Good was. More than enough people still want WiS as long as it fits into EVE properly and personally i hope the WoD assets and tools find their way into a new plan for WiS.

- Carbon is a framework, not a ready-to-use engine like UE3 or CryEngine. It's a collection of ALL the code EVE runs on, aswel as shared code like the website, API and server code between Dust/Valkyrie/WoD. It's basically an effort to codify and refactor all the ancient code from 2000 to get it all documented, and make it easier to use. Carbon is here to stay and that's a good thing.
FYI: The actual 3D engine for EVE is Trinity (inhouse), the engine for Dust is UE3 and the engine for Valkrie is Unity (unless that changed).

So CCP likely could use all the assets from WOD to add to dress up in Eve. I'd love to see this data though, how many folks ever change their clothes? I'd probably take the time to figure out how to change what I'm wearing if I could get a corp or alliance logo-ed shirt, but just to be able to stare at me in any of the clothes released to date is very "not current Eve" to me. So long as my character is just me in my captain's coffin I'd rather just try and set a personal ship spinning record for each ship I own. Maybe better TV in my room would make me turn my room back on but seriously, who really cares about character clothes in current Eve??

this . good luck to everyone who lost their jobs. the gaming world is a harsh mistress

First you have to get a good idea to iterate on, because iteration on failed thing will get the thing you develop only where CCP put WOD, in the bin.
Take flappy bird, and then take WOD and compare two games.

Will you CCP develop now an official EvE tool for us to multibox?

Thanks

CCP needs to get its act together and really devote all focus onto Eve.

I've been thinking this for quite a while, and it seems they are going in the right direction, but progress just seems to be too slow with the threat of games like Star Citizen on the horizon.

It won't take much for subscriber numbers to take a massive drop when a proper sci fi simulator MMORPG is released, something which has been sorely lacking from the games market, and instead of complacency Eve should really be stamping its authority, building barricades, and generally making it impenetrable to any other game attempting to step into this niche.

Right now eve will look like a kids toy compared to some of the sci fi simulators possible in the future, they really need to step their game. At the foundation, we still have the same old submarine simulator which we had back in 2003, which is not as much progress as should have been made in 10 years.

With respect, EVE is not in a good place itself, and thats the reason I pay CCP, so I'm glad WoD has been cancelled.

My hope would be that CCP realize exactly how flawed and weak a position EVE is in, and take the long LONG overdue steps to correct it.

The would include:

1. Comprehensive Sovreignty System Re-Write & Revision.
2. Comprehensive PvE Overhaul and Content Expansion.
3. Comprehensive POS System (and Code) Rewrite and Revision.
4. Mining, Moon-Mining and Industrial/Science Re-write and Revision.
5. Completion of the literally DOZENS of unfinished content additions in EVE.


These are not minor issues, minor quibbles or minority viewpoints.

It about time CCP take these issues serously, and make a serious effort to get them completed.

Be assured CCP, as time (and tech) marches on, and the Sci-Fi Simulator idea gets looked at by other companies, your failure to keep up, to finish things you start, or to take seriously your "endgame", both PvP (Sov.) and PvE, will surely be you demise.

And the fact you seem incappable of expanding your IP beyond EVE, you should really be wary of the discontent with the status quo of half-finished content and broken POC, Mining, Industry and Sov. systems you currently have in place.

I WANT you to succeed, I've given you alot of money over the years.

But YOU have to want it too, and stop seeing everywhere other than EVE as the place to invest, when EVE is why you all have jobs in the first place.

Good luck.