Player Features and Ideas Discussion

i think he was mostly refering on how absurdly similar both ships are
well after rereading some stuff from the marauder rebelance i think we were expecting from ccp some diversificaion between angels and general minmatar ships but we didnt get it sadly

CCP Rise pls consider giving Rattlesnake another slot:
up until now it made sense to have one less because of drones(and was the worse pirate bs by far, btw), but after this rebalance rattlesnake is becoming a split weapon system, so it will need 2 types of damage mods, while the rest of the pirate bs only need one;

More to the point, while any othe pirate bs will need 4 damage mods to get max dps rattlesnake will need 6
Considering this i'm sure you can see my point and give it another slot, be it a low, med or high, i'll be happy with any at this point

Which is why you made yours the other day to whine about Gurista changes and how it invalidates your play style. And here you are withe the same dreary lines.

Your style Is something that can change, so some bonuses come and some go. The line of these ships now has a distinct difference from any other ship in the game which is better than before. Whether its enough to bring it out of the shadows it seems to have been in for some time will have to wait and see.

I started with hybrids, was told missiles were the thing to have, found lasers were cool, tried missiles again and went heavy on the drone somewhere along the way. As a result I've squire a broad style along the way that isn't to affected by any one ship changing its style. A lot of people I know absolutely hated the changes they made to the Geddon, I loved them and felt it made sense. These changes for the Gurista line are the same way.

Think outside of the bunny eared box and revel in the cool stuff out there

Vindi still has a 90% web? seriously?

If u one found one day a mach who can sustain 4734 defense omni during 10 m without implants and with t2 mod .I ll begin to think maybe u are right until then ...

You don't get it , don't you ? It doesn't matter that already working ship got even better. All that matters is MORE, MORE. NEVER ENOUGH. Thus you responded to troll post.
They won't be happy until they will get ship that can solo all incursions sites, run all lvl 4 missions under 5 minutes etc.
Gila/worm/astero shouldnt have extra slot in first place.

Don't consider extra slot on gila/worm as standard - it's EXTRA, NOT SLOT you deserve by design. So if you don't get one on rattlesnake - it means you just did not get extra one. NO you did not lose any slot. There was no nerf ...

Time to sell my rattlesnakes ;). Predictions were strong in me as always ;). Mby i will save one for myself , it's hella strong now.

It's the same dps with heavyes and sentries but less with meds and lights . Missiles are buffed BUT with only 2 launchers if we keep the 2 DCU 's needed before . So a buff of +2 launchers with no heavy /sentry changes from before (but with a loss of med/light drone bonus) or a buff of +3.5 launchers with serious nerf to the drone system (range +the small meds effect ) .It's still the worst of the pirate BS's by far, not counting the poor Nestor .

It's a good buff but can be much better .

can you get that stick out of your a*s and READ what i posted? really, just read the post first;
rattlesnake have 19 slots and need to use 2 types of dmg mods, while mach or vindy have 20 slots and only need 1 type of dmg mods;( this is a problem connected with having a split weapos system and i was thinking that this is a thing of the past, but then CCP rebalanced the rattlesnake into this:split weapon system)

so, you can get the max dps out of an mach/vindy using 4 out of 20 slots, while on rattle you need to use 6 out of 19 slots; is that ballanced?

and about the "already working ship got even better": rattlesnake as it is right now in eve, is by far the worse pirate bs; hell it's not even in the same category with the other pirate bs, and that was why his selling price in jita was lower than many navy bs...

Of course not, RS should have two RR so it can compete. Not everyone can afford Nestors for station games. Also give it higher scan res so you don't waste mids on sebos.

I am not sure why the evenness in the number of launchers/turretts is so important to many, but there seems a real concern amongst quite a few people.

Could you also return the rattlesnake to an even number of launchers?
And add a damage bonus instead?


This will make it possible to add 2 dla again and not make it so that the ship becomes a pain to use a MJD.
(Yes I know you can fit rigs or give up the additional launcher but that's not really a buff then is it?)

Thank you.