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[Kronos] Pirate Faction Battleships

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Joelleaveek
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#281 - 2014-04-14 17:45:36 UTC
I think you should drop a turret from the Mach then increase the RoF or damage bonus just so it doesn't have a weird buck tooth turret.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#282 - 2014-04-14 17:48:13 UTC
Mardus Rial wrote:
RATTLESNAKE

Gallente Battleship Bonus:
10% bonus to kinetic and thermal missile damage (was 10% drone damage and hitpoints)

Caldari Battleship Bonus:
4% bonus to all shield resistances

Role Bonus:
275% bonus to heavy and sentry drone damage and hitpoints (was 50% bonus to Cruise missile and Torpedo max velocity)


Slot layout: 6H, 7M, 6L; 0 turrets, 5 launchers(+1)
Fittings: 10000 PWG, 710 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 12750 / 8940(-358) / 9960
Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 5350(+38) / 1154000ms / 4.59
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 94 / .128 / 99300000 / 18.45s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50(-75) / 175(-225)
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 75km / 100 / 7
Sensor strength: 30
Signature radius: 450(-10)

Way to nerf the Rattlesnake into a useless piece of trash. **** you CCP.


Are you high, or were you being satirical? Or both?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#283 - 2014-04-14 17:49:56 UTC
In market news, the Rattlesnake, previously selling for between 410 and 430 million isk, is now battling between price spikes and undercutting at around 610 mil.

The market has spoken.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
#284 - 2014-04-14 17:50:57 UTC
Mardus Rial wrote:

Way to nerf the Rattlesnake into a useless piece of trash. **** you CCP.


How is it nerfed?

Unless you specialized in light-drone damage, heavy ewar drones or sniping with missiles (lol), the rattle is better in every way than its current form.

That awkward moment at the Gentlemen's Club when you see your sister on the stage....and you're not sure where to put the money....
Mr Ignitious
Lifeline Industries
#285 - 2014-04-14 17:54:02 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Mr Ignitious wrote:


But that's ONLY true for heavies and sentries. It's now worse with mediums and lights. Heavies won't get used because heavies suck (they are too slow and have poor tracking - even with proposed changes) and sentries are only put to good use from domi's and ishtars.

People also keep losing their **** over the missile damage it's getting now. They're missiles, creating an environment where a torp will hit for full damage is about as difficult as it is to get a dread to hit for full. This rattlesnake may have great paper dps, but in practice it's going to be ****.


You mean the elite frigs that will pop to the 5 launchers worth of bonused precision crusies backed up by a TB and 5 light drones?

That is of course for peopel not smart enough to just MJD away and pop them with sentries as they approach.

I'm serious in asking this: Do you PVE at all?


For the record, I'm talking about PVP in this case.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#286 - 2014-04-14 17:55:39 UTC
Mr Ignitious wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Mr Ignitious wrote:


But that's ONLY true for heavies and sentries. It's now worse with mediums and lights. Heavies won't get used because heavies suck (they are too slow and have poor tracking - even with proposed changes) and sentries are only put to good use from domi's and ishtars.

People also keep losing their **** over the missile damage it's getting now. They're missiles, creating an environment where a torp will hit for full damage is about as difficult as it is to get a dread to hit for full. This rattlesnake may have great paper dps, but in practice it's going to be ****.


You mean the elite frigs that will pop to the 5 launchers worth of bonused precision crusies backed up by a TB and 5 light drones?

That is of course for peopel not smart enough to just MJD away and pop them with sentries as they approach.

I'm serious in asking this: Do you PVE at all?


For the record, I'm talking about PVP in this case.


I know, the poster i was replying to mentioned pve (elite frigs).
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#287 - 2014-04-14 17:57:36 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
In market news, the Rattlesnake, previously selling for between 410 and 430 million isk, is now battling between price spikes and undercutting at around 610 mil.

The market has spoken.



DAMN IT RISE, you know not to do Battleship threads before I get home, you cost me isk. I'm filling a support ticket for reimbursement!!!

Well, after I head down to Blood Raider sapce and start farmin me some 'Snake BPCs lol.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#288 - 2014-04-14 17:59:41 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
In market news, the Rattlesnake, previously selling for between 410 and 430 million isk, is now battling between price spikes and undercutting at around 610 mil. The market has spoken.

And Nestor prices are now hovering around $1.4-billion ISK because players are finally starting to realize how worthless they are, and that the actual "sales" have simply been a marketing ploy to artificially inflate the price.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Sieonigh
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#289 - 2014-04-14 17:59:47 UTC
CCP Rise i hope you can settle an agument for me?

the after burner bonus for the NM

this argument was about the Gist X type 100 NM AB in particular

will the max velocity bonus end up being (after skills to lvl 5) be 506.25% ?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#290 - 2014-04-14 18:00:45 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
In market news, the Rattlesnake, previously selling for between 410 and 430 million isk, is now battling between price spikes and undercutting at around 610 mil.

The market has spoken.



DAMN IT RISE, you know not to do Battleship threads before I get home, you cost me isk. I'm filling a support ticket for reimbursement!!!

Well, after I head down to Blood Raider sapce and start farmin me some 'Snake BPCs lol.


Of note, the price of those has also shot up enormously. Some enterprising individual had snapped up every one of them on the contracts market before I even woke up to notice this thread had been posted. They're being slowly relisted at roughly double of what they were last night.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
PinkKnife
The Cuddlefish
Ethereal Dawn
#291 - 2014-04-14 18:01:31 UTC
I give up. If anyone can tell me what one roll a NM can do better than any other boat, please tell me.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#292 - 2014-04-14 18:03:06 UTC
PinkKnife wrote:
I give up. If anyone can tell me what one roll a NM can do better than any other boat, please tell me.


It looks pretty cool?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
#293 - 2014-04-14 18:03:34 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
In market news, the Rattlesnake, previously selling for between 410 and 430 million isk, is now battling between price spikes and undercutting at around 610 mil.

The market has spoken.



DAMN IT RISE, you know not to do Battleship threads before I get home, you cost me isk. I'm filling a support ticket for reimbursement!!!

Well, after I head down to Blood Raider sapce and start farmin me some 'Snake BPCs lol.


Do you mean UP to Guristas space? P

That awkward moment at the Gentlemen's Club when you see your sister on the stage....and you're not sure where to put the money....
Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
#294 - 2014-04-14 18:04:40 UTC
PinkKnife wrote:
I give up. If anyone can tell me what one roll a NM can do better than any other boat, please tell me.


Fire Lasers Vertically?

That awkward moment at the Gentlemen's Club when you see your sister on the stage....and you're not sure where to put the money....
Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#295 - 2014-04-14 18:06:10 UTC
I wish I bought a bunch of SnakeRattles before they would go up like thisX
Oh well, maybe next time with the Recon Ships.
Little Blackjack
Money Savers Inc
#296 - 2014-04-14 18:09:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Little Blackjack
Nightmare NEEDS a DPS upgrade. just +1L is too few since we fly it with 4 HS already.

If you dont wanna go for 25% more DPS for the turrets, I strongly suggest to at least upgrade drones:

Drones (bandwidth / bay): 100(+25) / 150(+75)

That would give the option to field 4 sentries with 200 DPS extra. Fair deal. And enough of a buff.
If still too much, go for

Drones (bandwidth / bay): 75 / 150(+75)

at the very least.
Mr Hyde113
#297 - 2014-04-14 18:10:20 UTC
Amarr is pleased with your work on the Nightmare and Bhaalgorn.


Now if you don't mind, please give this
Quote:
(note: Energy Vampires fitted to this ship will drain targeted ship's capacitor regardless of your own capacitor level)
to the Pilgrim and Curse so I can nostalgia back to 2007 Pirate
Gargep Farrow
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#298 - 2014-04-14 18:14:21 UTC
Last Wolf wrote:
the rattle is better in every way than its current form.


Not sure I would go that far, but it has gained overall versatility with the loss of drone versatility.
Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#299 - 2014-04-14 18:15:05 UTC
Mr Hyde113 wrote:
Amarr is pleased with your work on the Nightmare and Bhaalgorn.


Now if you don't mind, please give this
Quote:
(note: Energy Vampires fitted to this ship will drain targeted ship's capacitor regardless of your own capacitor level)
to the Pilgrim and Curse so I can nostalgia back to 2007 Pirate

And give that big middle engine back to the curse! Give it baaaaack!
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#300 - 2014-04-14 18:17:39 UTC
Mr Hyde113 wrote:
Amarr is pleased with your work on the Nightmare and Bhaalgorn.


Now if you don't mind, please give this
Quote:
(note: Energy Vampires fitted to this ship will drain targeted ship's capacitor regardless of your own capacitor level)
to the Pilgrim and Curse so I can nostalgia back to 2007 Pirate


they'd still be useless. armour tank with 4 lows, or a gang ewar ship with 12km range.