Player Features and Ideas Discussion

With good heavy drones and capable missiles, I agree. What is the point of a second rate sentry boat.

So yes agreed, all bonuses to drones rather than heavies can be dropped. As the heavies should be able to apply acceptable damage as required.

It eliminates all the fudging and workarounds to try to make some sort of announcement.
A role bonus , a gallente bonus, a caldari bonus, with clear benefits and purpose.

And even better on a bonused ship like the ishtar...... Dominix...... Etc.

It might not be a good idea to keep ones hopes up about the gecko, it will most likely be a limited release item and eventually become a collectors item.

i really dnt think it needs a tracking bonus. theres already domi's and ishtars.

hope ccp listens to me rather than u.

But the rattlesnake gives up the sentry bonus to the domi and Ishtar, so absolutely does not step on their toes , the domi and ishtar are more focused drone boats, with this suggestion the rattlesnake is a true brawler Hybrid.

So there is differentiation between ships whilst both types are good.

Is that not a better alternative to the rattlesnake just not doing any drones well?

The mobility is in the weapons systems, not the hull.

Mobility through effective mobile drones and missiles, other classes like the Gila represent Hull mobility and lower signature with less overall firepower.

without an speed and tracking bonus it will not be able to deal with any small ship threats....
i really dont see where it would hurt to have the ship beeing able to defend it self against small ships
before patch you could call your small /med droens if needed and this option now will be gone and that HURTS the hull a lot

With the base stats of heavies, in conjunction with arthur's speed and tracking improvements, they would be able to apply damage across the board, not full damage by any means, but enough that even glancing blows add up.
So not frigate exterminators, but good enough.
Limiting it to Torpedoes, limits its options severely, particularly with loss of range.

This will not be a blaster boat. But a ship that does it's role well.

For clarity, this post and it's reply refer to arthur's suggestion being implemented.

Just replying addressing a different point

If this had been CCP rises original proposal. Sentry users would have been shocked.... Initially.

Once they realised they gained all of the benefits, and also gained the ability not to be locked in place nursemaiding their sentries, then the ship in testing and rollout would prove very popular and desirable to a great many players.We can argue about whether adding an extra 20% over this, in exchange for giving up sentries is a fair point, but the main idea is excellent.

It would be an excellent Pirate ship, different from anything else, just as the other pirate ships are different to everything else.

So plus about 8 million for your suggestion, It is a clever, imaginative solution to many peoples issues, as well as my own.

(People may have concerns as to the loss of Ewar drones. i can understand that. But hopefully when the ewar rebalance comes to modules and drones too that can be taken into account.)

yeah over 1300dps on the rattler, T1 ammo, T2 drones, no faction mods.

the only thing it loses is 20km drone control range. but it still reaches further than a torp golem and it still applies damage to various sizes of targets better than the golem.