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Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-04-12 23:09:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Jayem See
My entire point was to get them into a situation where they could make a choice.

I know some would go hi sec and that is fine - but some might do something else.

That is far better than where we are now.

Ed - Learn to mine - mine lots get bored and leave. There is so much more to this game.

I am so running for CSM next year - there are so many people that never say anything out loud.

Aaaaaaand relax.
Xavier Thorm
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-04-12 23:11:00 UTC
Tragot Gomndor wrote:
A pirate lowsec career agent ^^


I have this vague memory of one of the NPC enemies in an early tutorial mission asking me to join him, but it's been a while since I went through new player content. It would be cool if this was actually an option though.
Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-04-12 23:17:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Jayem See
Xavier Thorm wrote:
Tragot Gomndor wrote:
A pirate lowsec career agent ^^


I have this vague memory of one of the NPC enemies in an early tutorial mission asking me to join him, but it's been a while since I went through new player content. It would be cool if this was actually an option though.


The new player option is as boring as the old player bullshit.

If new bros had to think about what was going on around them then things mights be different

Ed - let me point out that it isn't -= it's the same **** day in day out. Eve Missions Guide tells you how to do it boring SHITE

Aaaaaaand relax.
Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-04-12 23:21:38 UTC
Why should it be easy?


Eve was supposed to be hard.


**** running missions on my own. Make me work.

It's too ******* easy.

Aaaaaaand relax.
Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#25 - 2014-04-12 23:23:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Jayem See
And before you all go whaling on me - the whole point of this thread was to get new players to think about themselves.

So **** you if you want to criticise me.

I've made some suggestions that I think are solid.

Your turn.

Lol - hardman

Aaaaaaand relax.
Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2014-04-12 23:26:20 UTC
Jayem See wrote:
Xavier Thorm wrote:
Tragot Gomndor wrote:
A pirate lowsec career agent ^^


I have this vague memory of one of the NPC enemies in an early tutorial mission asking me to join him, but it's been a while since I went through new player content. It would be cool if this was actually an option though.


The new player option is as boring as the old player bullshit.

If new bros had to think about what was going on around them then things mights be different


The problem, as I see it, is that there is a huge difference in skill levels between a 1 hour & 4 day old pilot.

Skills generally don't matter, but when you are talking about going into a pvp enviroment without the ability to fit a scram, prop mod, etc. (And with half the players not knowing what any of those things are at that point), it would be far more frustrating to many players than I think you realize.

Somthing like this would be better started once the players are a few days old. Either a mission to null/low-sec, or a new player WH, with similar restrictions on entry.
Xavier Thorm
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-04-12 23:29:16 UTC
Jayem See wrote:
And before you all go whaling on me - the whole point of this thread was to get new players to think about themselves.

So **** you if you want to criticise me.

I've made some suggestions that I think are solid.

Your turn.

Lol - hardman


There's really no point posting a thread in this forum if you're just going to yell at your critics and call them stupid.
Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-04-12 23:31:25 UTC
Cassandra Aurilien wrote:
Jayem See wrote:
Xavier Thorm wrote:
Tragot Gomndor wrote:
A pirate lowsec career agent ^^


I have this vague memory of one of the NPC enemies in an early tutorial mission asking me to join him, but it's been a while since I went through new player content. It would be cool if this was actually an option though.


The new player option is as boring as the old player bullshit.

If new bros had to think about what was going on around them then things mights be different


The problem, as I see it, is that there is a huge difference in skill levels between a 1 hour & 4 day old pilot.

Skills generally don't matter, but when you are talking about going into a pvp enviroment without the ability to fit a scram, prop mod, etc. (And with half the players not knowing what any of those things are at that point), it would be far more frustrating to many players than I think you realize.

Somthing like this would be better started once the players are a few days old. Either a mission to null/low-sec, or a new player WH, with similar restrictions on entry.


Would it be too much for anew player?

I did rock a new player and it IS harsh.

Do you have a sensible way to do it? For me an open environment for noobs with warnings could work.

The gap between new and useful is just a bit too wide for me atm.

Aaaaaaand relax.
Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-04-12 23:37:01 UTC
Chonk

Aaaaaaand relax.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#30 - 2014-04-12 23:41:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
OP seems unaware that CCP's biggest problem right now is player retention. Sandbox games are few and far between, and apparently the biggest reason for people leaving the game is that they don't realize all the options available to them. Having them make a choice doesn't help anything if they don't know what all their choices are in the first place.

People are accustomed to theme parks where everything is decided for them, not games like EVE where you can decide everything for yourself. It's more important, IMO, that the NPE show people how the game works and help them transition away from a mindset of "gameplay on rails" and into "I am the immortal master of my own destiny, and woe to those who would oppose me." CCP has a very difficult job, trying to accomplish something like that in today's market and I do not envy them the task.

EDIT: This forum does not allow bumping. Even if it did, you should at least let your thread reach the second page before you bump it to the top again.
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