Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'm a merchant, pure and simple. I use the market of skill books to pay for my plexes. A while back my corp was wardeced. a second corp, pure mercenaries jumped into the fray. These guys do NOT fight pvp normally. what they do is set outside one of the hubs and shoot at anything that is red to them, which is a lot. They don't fight fair battles, as they have six of so ships that attack as one. IF anything comes in they cant handle, they dock and remain docked as long as its outside the station. This means merchants can not leave the station.

The only way to get around them is to leave your corp until they stop attacking your corp.

What you are saying is that you want to make it where merchants can no exist. You are saying that people that don't play your way cant play the game.

THAT IS TOTALLY WRONG. I have the right to play the game the way I want to and you cant stop it. Get over yourself. IF your such a scardy cat that you cant face righting things that can actually hurt you, you don't deserve the easy kills.

+1 for OP's suggestion. NPC corps loopholes have been abused for far too long. If not OP's suggestion, perhaps have certain NPC Corps be in "forever" wars against each other, or maybe give me an option to declare war on an individual, no matter their corp affiliation, to prevent dropping Corps to dodge wardecs. Another solution is to raise tax to something like 50%.

Yet you drop Corp at the first sign of any trouble, scardy cat.

Work with your Corp mates and collaborate and you can still be a merchant under war dec. You might even make more money.

GET OVER BEING BUTT HURT.

I would take this idea a step further.

All players start in a starter corp appropriate to their chosen faction. So, if I start an Amarr pilot, he is automatically a member of either Hedion University, Imperial Academy, or Royal Amarr Institute.

After 3 months in the starter corp, players are forced to pay the 11% tax so long as they remain in that corp.

After six months in the starter corp, they are automatically kicked to another NPC corp. The player gets to choose which NPC corp to join. So, for our Amarr player, he can choose from any of the many NPC corporations. Or, he can join a player corporation. A player could, of course, choose to join another corp at any time (he doesn't have to wait six months to leave the starter corp).

All NPC corp members get 1 share of stock in the first non-starter NPC corp they join. Stock in NPC corporations takes the form of actual in game certificates, that can be transported in ships and destroyed (like plex). NPC stock can be bought and sold on the market. Trial accounts do not get shares of stock.

So, our hypothetical Amarr player decides to join Carthum Conglomerate. He earns one share of Carthum Conglomerate stock. If he then switches over to Viziam, he does not earn Viziam stock, but he could purchase Viziam stock on the market, or he could trade his Carthum stock to another player for some Viziam stock. If he joins a player corporation, he retains his Carthum Conglomerate stock, unless he decides to sell or trade it.

Shareholders can vote on which opposing NPC corps that corporation should go to war with for the next month. Each share of stock gets one vote. Eligible targets for the war dec follow factional warfare lines. So, our shareholders can declare war on any Minmatar or Gallente NPC corp. Faction navies/police will not get involved in these inter-corporation wars.

All non-starter NPC corporations have a base tax rate of 50% - unless the have at least one active war - in which case it lowers to 25%. All NPC war decs automatically last at least one week. Shareholders vote at the end of each month for who the corp should go to war with the next month, and which week it should begin. The shareholders could choose to not declare war, but then they suffer 50% tax rates.

At the end of each month, NPC corporations refund 40% of the base tax amount on a per share basis to all shareholders with active accounts. Shareholders with active accounts in the corp for the entire month earn an additional 20% of the base tax amount back, on a per share basis.

For each faction, the corp with the most damage done to war targets gets an additional 40% tax paid back to shareholders with active accounts in the corporation. Thus, for that corp, all the taxes collected are paid back to shareholders.

For example, assume Carthum Conglomerate taxes 1 billion ISK this month. Carthum pays back 400 million on a per share basis to all active players who own shares.

Carthum pays an additional 200 million, on a per share basis, to all active shareholder members of Carthum for that entire month (i.e. if I own Carthum stock but am a member of Viziam, I do not get any from this pot).

Carthum, being well-organized and very active, does more damage to other corporations than any other Amarr corporation. Carthum shareholders, who are also members for that entire month, therefore earn another 400 million divided on a per share basis.

Members of NPC corps cannot attack members of their own corporation in high security space without incurring the wrath of Concord, absent duel situations.

Actions against fellow corp members also results in loss of standings towards that corporation, no matter what part of space in which this action occurs.

Members gain standings for positive actions on behalf of their corporation. Thus, players earn a corporation standings bonus for each war target they kill, based upon the killboard value of the target (i.e. killing a war target freighter is worth more than killing a T1 frigate).

Corp members also earn an extra 5% standings on missions they run for their parent corporation.

All other war dec mechanics are the same as for player corporations (e.g. flagging for neutral logistics assistance).

I don't know whether anything like this has been proposed before, and there may be exploits I have not foreseen (e.g. the kinds of things Mynna would spot). Please point those out to me and provide refinements as you see fit.

This is a surprisingly good idea for a use of shares and solves the npc corp immunity problem. I don't think the tax thing will go over well because that's used as an isk sink but, having people compete for shares so they can decide what the npc corp does would be amazing.

I'm a little confused.

Are we on about starter npc or like the scope?

I would be against war decs on both. Newbie griefing is not cool and will put off newbies and dropping corp to find yourself in a war dec isn't cool either. What i propose, and what actually addresses the 'problem', is an increase in the tax rate of npc corps to say 15 percent, to fund the massive wars which are going on. This incentivises people to join corps or just set up an alt corp. One man alt corps are another issue though and most people in the know are already in one.

But is there even an issue with people staying in npc corps anyways? I don't want my cyno alts in a real corp, nor do i want my out of corps logistics alt. This is only an issue for war deccers, unless someone can present an arguement that it's not?

On corp membership there are more important issues like getting newbies to join corps that aren't crappy and accept trial accounts (i thought no corp would accept me because i was on a trial account and joined one immediately after i subbed), i think BNI is great for this and deserves a mention and shoutout.
The other thing is whether we want OMACs to exist at all or go wow style 'need x people to form a corp'.

When was the last time you saw an npc Corp projecting overwhelming force?