EVE General Discussion

If you make the wrong choices, yes you are guaranteed to fail.

Trying something new and succeeding is called being imaginative. Trying something new and failing is called being an idiot.

SO this thing is still going because OP is bad at eve, and blames training queues for it. Mkay.

I understand the inherent error in you, and other posters, going off-topic, making assumptions about other posters, etc. Gee whiz. Here we are talking about photography...

I don't have to realize any such thing, because I disagree that my perception is flawed. If you disagree with it, so be it, but my perception cannot be any more or less flawed than your own. My OP presents indisputable facts about the game's progressive mechanism. Facts. What you, and others, have counter-argued is cosmetic. You want me to enjoy the game because you do, in spite of my dissatisfaction with the facts. And I will not. And no amount of griping about my choice will make the facts incorrect, or my perception of them flawed.

One who desires X ship and X mods does, indeed have to wait. There is no rational dispute to this. One's reasons for wanting those things are immaterial to the OP. Always have been.

If you had won every single one of those fights, would you have perceived a problem with eve? Would you have then made this thread about SP? We both know the answer to that.

If you want tips on where and how you can proceed as a solo bomber I can give you that. Though that's a hard path to follow, there are one or two amazing solo bombers out there.

If you want tips on how to get better for general lowsec pvp, we can help you with that too.

So you are appointing yourself as the objective and reliable observer and we are all just irrational trolls who don't understand you?

That's intellectual dishonesty for you.

I believe that I detailed that very thing in the OP. I wish people would read (and understand) it before posting.

Oh I did read. You just failed to coherently answer my question, thus, it's here, being asked.

In any other MMO, if you want item x or y, you have to craft it, or buy it, or grind for it. All 3 of them imply some level of waiting for results.

If we are talking about levels, you have to log off, wait for your rested xp, and then go back to the grind, assuming you want to get there ASAP.

Did I miss something?

My comment pointed out that my perceptions were equally valid, not more valid. You reply seems to be emotionally founded and made in haste. Just take your time. We're in no hurry. It will help avoid misunderstandings.

That's mainly because you don't quite grasp what your actual problem is yet, and how the things people have been telling you help you overcome this problem.

You're being dissatisfied with your progress in the game. What people keep telling you and helping you with is what metric to use to properly measure your progress, and how you can indeed improve the speed of that progression by playing properly.


Because you exemplify your complaint with personal experiences and with fundamentally incorrect assumptions about what options are available to you. It all comes down to you setting the wrong kind of goals at the wrong level. People are simply trying to explain why (and how) you should adjust your expectations.

…which I didn't do. In complaining about the time it takes to acquire skills and gear, you are making the exact same error as the wannabe photographer. If you are one yourself and understand the error of his way of thinking, we have a good starting point to fix the errors in your thinking. This is not going off-topic, nor is it an assumption about you.

Sure it can, and yes, in order to fix that flaw you have to realise that it exists in the first place. Specifically, your perception is flawed because it assumes a game design, a reward system, and an ability set-up that is not actually present in the game. Your OP presents assumptions about how the game works that aren't entirely accurate, and builds up a problem that the game has already solved. What we have counter-argued is that, not only have you misunderstood some of the mechanics involved and means available to you, but the “problems” you're having are entirely of your own making. Your dissatisfaction comes from the game mechanics and balance not fitting into the pattern you're expecting, not from the mechanics being flawed.

We don't care if you enjoy the game or not. We're just explaining to you why what you draw enjoyment from is not something that brings any kind of enjoyment in this game: because it's focused on gameplay, not progression.

Oh, and someone who desires ships and mods X does not have to wait, but more to the point, someone who desires ships and mods X does so for a reason. The fact of the matter is that he does not have to wait for X to fulfil that reason. Your assumption that he does is what makes you wrong and your perception less valid.