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[Proposal] Null space no longer gives security status boost.
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Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#21 - 2011-11-15 17:58:45 UTC
There is no risk in low or null for sec status. I was in a cloaky pilgrim and only killed rats in empty low sec systems and safed/cloaked if someone came in. Done the same in null with a proteus cloaky + nullifier while in npc corp with no blues. All the change will do is make the grind longer for those who do it in null now.
Laechyd Eldgorn
Avanto
Hole Control
#22 - 2011-11-15 18:45:40 UTC
JUST SO YOU GAIS KNOW:

- In drone 0.0 you get very little sec since drones don't give you much sec, I don't see DRF guys crying out loud here nor me or my buddies who hang around there somewhat much. So in general there's no need to give sec boosts in 0.0. I don't really care to any extent but there's no real need for sec boosts in 0.0.

- Best sec boosting is in hi sec. Certain pve sites and incursions give loads of sec boosts so it doesn't really matter to anyone if you don't get sec boost in 0.0. Again. I think it would be more important to remove sec boosts in hi sec instead. But maybe that's only me who thinks it's ******** you get sec boosts in hi sec.

Just saying. I don't suicide gank retardedly fit overpriced tengu every day so I don't know much.
Goose99
#23 - 2011-11-15 19:01:36 UTC
Endovior wrote:
Anything that gives a bounty, also gives a bit of Concord's approval, since Concord's the one paying out the bounties. It'd be odd if Concord paid bounties, but not sec status, for nullsec kills.

Interesting as it might be to keep criminals in lowsec for the duration of whatever time they spend in penance, there'd need to be a lot more compelling content there to justify forcing that on people.


^This. Remove sov null rat bounties.Cool
Yeep
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2011-11-15 22:11:54 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Null security space should have zero affect on your security status. Up or down..


Why?
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#25 - 2011-11-15 23:38:15 UTC
Lykouleon wrote:
Doesn't mesh with canon RP nor would it be a good idea to yank out the ability for CONCORD to put bounties on nullsec rats.


Remove bounties on rats, switch to tags. No more CONCORD tie-in, new avenue for income generation by middle-men Twisted

Security standings gains in low sec means that content will be there, since players are the content in this PvP sandbox game. Of course once you're higher than -5.0 standings, you can gain standings faster by running missions in hisec. So it's not like you're going to be forced to live in low sec forever.

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Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2011-11-15 23:48:15 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Lykouleon wrote:
Doesn't mesh with canon RP nor would it be a good idea to yank out the ability for CONCORD to put bounties on nullsec rats.


Remove bounties on rats, switch to tags. No more CONCORD tie-in, new avenue for income generation by middle-men Twisted

Security standings gains in low sec means that content will be there, since players are the content in this PvP sandbox game. Of course once you're higher than -5.0 standings, you can gain standings faster by running missions in hisec. So it's not like you're going to be forced to live in low sec forever.


Finally someone who gets it.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2011-11-16 00:21:26 UTC
So, all this is supposed to do is get people to play more in lowsec? Why not remove sec status grinding from hisec too, then?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2011-11-16 00:38:45 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
So, all this is supposed to do is get people to play more in lowsec? Why not remove sec status grinding from hisec too, then?


No.... the OP is just a glorified Carebear...its a stealth boost to High Sec Profits.

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Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2011-11-16 03:32:52 UTC
Drake Draconis wrote:
No.... the OP is just a glorified Carebear


Who has a few thousand more kills that you and that is just with one of my characters.

Drake Draconis wrote:
its a stealth boost to High Sec Profits.


You have stated your opinion on my idea a few times. Fine. Trying to label it as some boost to the amount of money someone makes in high sec is just stupid.
Goose99
#30 - 2011-11-16 04:20:35 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
So, all this is supposed to do is get people to play more in lowsec? Why not remove sec status grinding from hisec too, then?


Supported. Once you're red, you should be red for good. This will be a boost to low/null population.Cool
Talr Shiar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2011-11-16 05:07:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Talr Shiar
-10/10 Quantifire you provide something down there that someone can bribe their way back into highsec or something similar. This game after all is about the market, if you remove a legal means of getting back into highsec then one should be able to use loyalty points from Pirate Factions for example to bribe maybe a less then legitimate part of a Empire to vouce for your status.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2011-11-16 08:08:31 UTC
So, Marlona Sky just wants to remove sec status grinding from nullsec, not from hisec as well (where the gain to lowsec is potentially bigger)?

PS: Goose99, you're missing the point. Read the post again.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
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