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The new skins are not what players asked for...

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#41 - 2014-04-09 22:11:11 UTC
I thought everything the OP is complaining about was explained in the:

Devblog
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#42 - 2014-04-09 22:33:04 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
masternerdguy wrote:
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
I am ultra familiar with minimum viable products, but is that really a rationalization for why so many of the released designs look like ass?


Out of curiosity, what designs would you want? Flame blue? Pin stripes? Bumble bee?



You have a limited imagination. Let the artists take over this job, instead of the coders.


If that happens you'll get upside down crucifiers and new ships that are uglier than the old ships.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...

Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#43 - 2014-04-09 22:52:58 UTC
There is always the option of product placement.

PEPSI logos on the ships?

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Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#44 - 2014-04-09 23:59:49 UTC
You know OP, people might take you seriously if you don't just create a throw away alt and actually reply to anything said in the thread.

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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#45 - 2014-04-10 01:09:52 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
There is always the option of product placement.

PEPSI logos on the ships?

Finally a new reason for ganking ships.

Remove standings and insurance.

Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#46 - 2014-04-10 01:16:32 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
I respectfully disagree. You dont see if a new 3 course meal will be a hit by just serving the appetizer.

I hate all the new skins, but would still want to paint my ship.


That is a really ****-poor comparison that has basically nothing to do with the subject at hand.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#47 - 2014-04-10 01:34:41 UTC
That a painted ship has to be an entirely new entity in the database is not necessarily a bad thing. It opens up doors for further customization.

Though in that light I would fail to see what an "Aliastra Edition" battleship would have that makes it special. What, is it specially designed to go shopping with or something?


I think a lot of people are just mad because there's no "Punisher Edition" black Brutix with a big Punisher skull on the front.

But give it time. Give it time.

There's simply a rock and a hard place here. Poking at player interest to gauge how much resource to put into this is perfectly legitimate.

Imagine what would happen if they want balls deep with this, come up with all kinds of schemes, the works - the min/maxer/ISK-addict/Killmail-addict OCD crowd would be screaming bloody murder all over the forums because THEIR playstyle and related content is was not the center of the universe (or the expansion).


It would have been better if they could have started out with solid colors. Just let players have a black Cyclone or White Typhoon. But until this issue with the legacy requirement is solved (and that would probably take time and $$) we should take what we can get.

If you want paint schemes, go buy one. If you look at this flatly and think "uhhhhhh this is not going to put ISK in my wallet/add green to my killboard" then just ignore the whole subject and pretend everybody cares about your stats as much as you do (don't worry if you flagellate about it enough we'll entertain you).





Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#48 - 2014-04-10 01:38:59 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I think a lot of people are just mad because there's no "Punisher Edition" black Brutix with a big Punisher skull on the front.

But give it time. Give it time.

This. I want this. I will fly this everyday.

But seriously, the Kador Punisher is pretty nice, but I think all of the rest are ass. If you want to gauge interest, why would you do it with butt ugly designs?

To me, this thing is ******** anyway. Everyone knows we want ship customization, and have for a long time. It could have been a huge driver for Aurum, more than clothing has been for sure. Does CCP really need to gauge if there is interest in this? People badly want to customize their ships, but to do it properly, and not sent leftover cuts from CCP's art department floor.

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Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#49 - 2014-04-10 02:00:06 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
I respectfully disagree. You dont see if a new 3 course meal will be a hit by just serving the appetizer.

I hate all the new skins, but would still want to paint my ship.


That is a really ****-poor comparison that has basically nothing to do with the subject at hand.



the question is: is this a "test" of the technology or a "test" of how players take to the skins?

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masternerdguy
Doomheim
#50 - 2014-04-10 02:01:41 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
I respectfully disagree. You dont see if a new 3 course meal will be a hit by just serving the appetizer.

I hate all the new skins, but would still want to paint my ship.


That is a really ****-poor comparison that has basically nothing to do with the subject at hand.



the question is: is this a "test" of the technology or a "test" of how players take to the skins?



Test of the popularity of the skins, since developing the technology to do it well is going to be resource intensive. This was all outlined in the blog.

So if you want more options, you're going to have to vote with your wallet.

Things are only impossible until they are not.

Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#51 - 2014-04-10 02:27:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Doireen Kaundur
masternerdguy wrote:
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
I respectfully disagree. You dont see if a new 3 course meal will be a hit by just serving the appetizer.

I hate all the new skins, but would still want to paint my ship.


That is a really ****-poor comparison that has basically nothing to do with the subject at hand.



the question is: is this a "test" of the technology or a "test" of how players take to the skins?



Test of the popularity of the skins, since developing the technology to do it well is going to be resource intensive. This was all outlined in the blog.

So if you want more options, you're going to have to vote with your wallet.



I'll pass.

Offer me something worth buying first before making promises that there are better things to come. Seems CCP is still believing that garbage about "paying more attention to what players do rather than what players say." Roll

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Laiannah Sahireen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2014-04-10 02:42:51 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:

I'll pass.

Offer me something worth buying first before making promises that there are better things to come. Seems CCP is still believing that garbage about "paying more attention to what players do rather than what players say." Roll



There are a lot of players who really like the new skins, myself and a large chunk of my alliance included. The players have decided the demand and the market has decided the appropriate price.

CCP also stated their exact intentions in the dev blog about this pilot program by clearly explaining that they're going to monitor demand and price for the skins that people buy and use this to inform future decisions.

Lots of people like this program and CCP are being crystal clear about how their future plans, regardless of your personal taste, aloof attitude or the fact you think you're clever for referring to emails from the Incarna debacle.
Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#53 - 2014-04-10 02:43:34 UTC
Why complain about useless sht? Ignore it.

Skins, really?

You actually buy that crap?
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2014-04-10 02:46:16 UTC
Arsine Mayhem wrote:
Why complain about useless sht? Ignore it.

Skins, really?

You actually buy that crap?

Feels like there is some irony in talking about the uselessness of skins when where all playing with pixel space ships.
Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#55 - 2014-04-10 02:48:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Doireen Kaundur
Laiannah Sahireen wrote:

Lots of people like this program and CCP are being crystal clear about how their future plans, regardless of your personal taste, aloof attitude or the fact you think you're clever for referring to emails from the Incarna debacle.


Those Who Forget the Past Are Doomed to Repeat It

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Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#56 - 2014-04-10 02:52:15 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
I want a hot-pink widow.



Here ya go. http://evenews24.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/pinkwidow_azajigga_issue.jpg

Where did I get it? Apparently someone wants to play as a Japanese schoolgirl in star citizen.

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/86866/character-customization-can-i-play-as-a-highschool-girl

I am deeply disturbed by this person, but I do like the widow :D

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Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#57 - 2014-04-10 02:57:36 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Arsine Mayhem wrote:
Why complain about useless sht? Ignore it.

Skins, really?

You actually buy that crap?

Feels like there is some irony in talking about the uselessness of skins when where all playing with pixel space ships.


Awww, did you buy that patch on your eye? lololzzz
Laiannah Sahireen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2014-04-10 02:59:39 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
Laiannah Sahireen wrote:

Lots of people like this program and CCP are being crystal clear about how their future plans, regardless of your personal taste, aloof attitude or the fact you think you're clever for referring to emails from the Incarna debacle.


Those Who Forget the Past Are Doomed to Repeat It


That was a spectacularly empty quote. CCP created a PR disaster with Incarna, players revolted, this time they're being completely upfront about it and people are being receptive. It's a completely different scenario.

Those Who Post Quotes With A Capital Letter For Each Word Are Not As Smart As They Think They Are.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2014-04-10 03:01:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyberius Franklin
Arsine Mayhem wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Arsine Mayhem wrote:
Why complain about useless sht? Ignore it.

Skins, really?

You actually buy that crap?

Feels like there is some irony in talking about the uselessness of skins when where all playing with pixel space ships.


Awww, did you buy that patch on your eye? lololzzz

Came with the collectors edition, I wanted the book and the music CD. Extras were cool though.

Still, you miss the point in that you play with pixel space ships. There is nothing you could possibly point at that could make me think your stance less ironic.

Hal Morsh wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
I want a hot-pink widow.



Here ya go. http://evenews24.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/pinkwidow_azajigga_issue.jpg

Where did I get it? Apparently someone wants to play as a Japanese schoolgirl in star citizen.

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/86866/character-customization-can-i-play-as-a-highschool-girl

I am deeply disturbed by this person, but I do like the widow :D
What do you have against Moretsu Space Pirates?
Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#60 - 2014-04-10 03:02:25 UTC
Laiannah Sahireen wrote:
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
Laiannah Sahireen wrote:

Lots of people like this program and CCP are being crystal clear about how their future plans, regardless of your personal taste, aloof attitude or the fact you think you're clever for referring to emails from the Incarna debacle.


Those Who Forget the Past Are Doomed to Repeat It


That was a spectacularly empty quote. CCP created a PR disaster with Incarna, players revolted, this time they're being completely upfront about it and people are being receptive. It's a completely different scenario.

Those Who Post Quotes With A Capital Letter For Each Word Are Not As Smart As They Think They Are.


This has nothing to do with my "smarts." It has to do with skins that I dont feel are worth buying.

It's my opinion and my money. So why are you using personal attacks for stating my opinion?

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