EVE General Discussion

Strange that every other post, agrees. Peoplea re not lazy at all or unique. The simple fact is there are thousands more corps doing exactly the same thing! You can offer everything and anything, so does everyone else. The simple fact is most people are only drawn to 0.0 sov alliances, which most space holding. Why because its safe and offers lots of carebearing opportunites too, even hardcore pvpers want that too. I remember when my corp was in an alliance, we owned a large region of 0.0 space and i had people falling over to join us. I mean we could pick and choose we had 150 - 30+mill sp guys in a matter of weeks no problem. As soon as we lost that space, and its happens now as much, people leave and go to another 0.0 sov holding alliance. I mean now its worse, as soon as a 0.0 sov alliance loses space they actually disband!..thats a simple fact...

My corp is recruiting but none of the people I try to recruit ever log on to the game. It's hella frustrating.

You don't understand... yes lots of corps in eve do the same thing, yes lots of people want 0.0 sov


If i ever rejoin a 0.0 sov, i don't want to join a renter alliance, i laugh at all these people who go "WE NEED 0.0 PILOTS FOR OUR 0.0 PVP CORPS" to which i then read "Shadow of xxdeathxx"

To create a reputation you can do the same thing over and over again, but you gotta do it to the right people.. e.g. when the late great imperial 0rder was alliance, AQUILA INC. was literally their main threat next to Controlled chaos and Territorial claim Unit.

Why? because we came out of nowhere and opened ****...

Point i'm getting at is that you don't NEED sov, you just need a reputation in what you do, and to build that, you gotta **** those off who have a reputation.

Exactly, too many people who want to feel special and important.

Ive been a CEO and ive seen it from the other side. I can only give a highsec version but here it is and why people dont want to join certain corps and not others.

1. The amount of corp adverts ive seen asking for mission runners and you check there tax and its 10%.
A Highsec Mission runner corp should have a 0% tax rate we are not here to make the CEO isk.

Using isk to buy BPOs for the corp. its horseshit as if you leave you dont get a share of the BPO. its for the CEO

2. If you are a mining corp dont have mining ops for the CORP as you can forget ship replacement for carebears. you will have people losing ships constantly if you are wardeced and people cant be arsed to pay for other peoples loses.

Split your Ore evenly or sell your share at the market rate to those who want it.


The best corps and alliances ive seen are breakaways where a certain group of people got sick of leadership and went of to form there own alliance as they will be friends doing it.


3. The only highsec corps that should have tax are industry corps where they are sharing a POS as you have bills and offices to pay for.


Bottom line is people are selfish and they will only pay taxes if they have strong leaders and a vision for the future. just pottering around and asking for tax will not get you anywhere. and if you bill are say 30 million a month the CEO can make that isk in an hour highsec mission running.

Just my thoughts.

the reason for people not wanting to join just any small 0.0 sov holding alliances is because they tend to fail cascade within the first year and thus members get their stuff locked into outposts..

The larger more established alliances tend have better support systems for their members and are less likely to lose their space.

Ive just been in the recruitment channel and its a failscape of corps that everyone should avoid

10%-12.5% tax rates and they are asking for mission runners.

no wonder people avoid it like the plague

yeh maybe it is just coincidence but i noticed it all start happening once npc corp tax happened. lots of small corps all heavily recruiting and spamming recruitment channel and around starter systems.

This is the players fault. They don't want to lose their 60 mil hurricane or their 200mil maelstrom. Every time i see someone say "don't trust anyone in EVE" i get a little angry inside. How are you suppose to make friends or be social? Just sit in the damn station and play barbie?


I don't feel like typing but thought this was appropriate. I was in a corp long ago that was very small and we spent almost everyday BSing and laughing in voice chat. We dealt with wardecs all the time but no one wanted to use there good ships so we threw frigs and t1 cruisers at them and game them free KMs. Later on we put up a POS where we could hangout in and do research stuff. Everyone thought we were pretty close group of guys until the management decided to charge to use the POS and require a full API. 3 guys including me loled and left.

I have actually had a lot of success with the recruit channel. I will admit, it is all about volume though.

It's important to think about it from the perspective of a potential recruit. They are browsing that channel 90% of the time because they want to join an established corp where content will be provided for them. If they wanted to put the effort in to FC or run PVE/Industry operations (the kind of thing that retains your average player) they would start their own corp.

No one wants to join a corp with 10% taxes and no one wants to join a corp with 2 people in it. If you are starting from scratch, either make friends ahead of time so you can build momentum right off the bat, or fill your corp with alts so you can at least throw an illusion on.

Sure you will only retain 1 out of 15 or 20 members you find in the recruitment channel at first, but good new recruits tend to have friends. If you can establish an active player base of 10-15 people and more than one of them can lead operations to provide content for your average member, you are on your way.

When heavily recruiting I tend to spam the recruitment channel for a minimum of several hours a day.