Ships & Modules

A guide on fittings and tactics for Afterburner Destroyers and the niche that each of the 7 hulls (Talwar is not in guide since it is an MWD hull) fill depending on their choice of tackle (long or short point).

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It should be stressed that AB destroyers are gang ships.

Nice guide, although I agree with Gregor above me: some of these fits will only work against PvE fit targets.

Most of these long range AB/Long Point dessie's will die horribly to most brawler frigate's, or even any MWD frigate's since you have no way of shutting down the MWD with a Disruptor. Mostly since you have no way to prevent them from coming to you. I would actually only pair a Long Point with a MWD on anything smaller than Cruiser-sized hulls.

I would fly a catalyst with a full rack of blasters, a AB and a scram. This way you would do 400+ DPS easily while being able to maintain range to your target. (unless your are up against a webbing ship or a dual prop frigate which may still outrun you)

That's a broad generalisation. As long as you can hit to max point range effectively then your own speed is irrelevant. Ships kiting missiles is another matter - but there are rigs etc. to help with that.

The only issue is if you are slow and long range, people can disengage much more easily due to your lack of tackle.

Agree'd - my general rule is to try and get as much range out of close range weapons as possible. Dual-Prop +Scram also helps.

I could have expanded on those statements, their juxtaposition doesn't help carry the point admittedly :p

Then again, i thought most folk would fill in the blanks :)

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In the guide there is a 650 dps catalyst with a scram.

If you're only looking for 400+ dps, use the blaster Cormorant since you get an activate tank:

Cormorant, AB Short point --- dps.
Lows:
Damage Control II
Mag Stab II

Mediums:
1MN Afterburner II (your propulsion).
Warp scam II
Medium Anc shield booster

Highs:
Light Ion Blaster II x7 --- Void S
Small Nosferatu II (CRITICAL, do not neglect this)

Rigs:
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I

Advantage 1: 400dps+ with divine tracking, 300+ dps with Null if you need that extra range.

Advantage 2: Your tank uses no cap. You have an AB that overheats to 900m/s, your choice of shield tank didn't increase your sig radius nor sacrifice speed. Unless you are dual webbed (an infrequent dilemma), your target will need to put out over 150dps in blaster range. Given your angular velocity in 500meter orbit and small sig radius an the inability to shut down your AB with a scram, it's fair to say that your opponent will indeed have a difficult time doing this.

Advantage 3: When you orbit a target at 500meters, many distance fluctuations come into play. The catalyst will often find itself applying dps in its falloff, but the corm can often stay within optimal range.

Big Advantage: You are totally immune to neuts. Your tank is capless, and the nos can perma run your AB, point and you'll be able to pop your guns at least once per vamp cycle (3 second cycle, ions are 1.7 seconds).

How does one get under 75mm rails or small pulse or rockets?

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

It's been said many times in the guide that these destroyers are meant for wolfpacks. You will need an MWD in practically every solo fit, this was also mentioned in the guide.

AB fit Zealot, sure. Non prop mod fail fit ships, sure. Approach hitting eager RvB newbies, sure. An actually decent fitted pvp ship with a pilot who has higher brain functions? No, not happening.

Well, if you start out at long point range (well outside your neut range), I'd say they just MWD away from you in a straight line hitting you with heavy pulses as you hit approach. And if by chance you happen to catch them short range all they have to do is burn away in whatever direction, like any smart turret pilot who doesn't have drones on his ship would do, and the same thing happens again; you hit approach, your measly ~800m/s is no match for the Zealot's 1700-2400m/s and because of the near zero transversal his heavy pulses turn you into space dust.

If you mean some clown who enjoys sticking around a small ship while he doesn't have webs and/or drones I will point at the "a pilot who has higher brain functions" bit. Super specialised fringe cases are hardly a valid reason to state a specific strategy to be generally valid. AB + long point generally isn't logical to do.