Intergalactic Summit

Been some time since I actually began a discussion here. All good things come to and end, as they say.

So, in a departure from all normal business, I thought we could take a minute to consider a subject that has been conspicuously absent from current affairs.

It begs questions.

What happened to the Jove?

Are they still alive?

If they are dead, what happened?

If alive, are they still watching us?

Why, in either case, do we know so little? Is it possible to get an answer?

Any and all questions and answers, fire away. Let's get that ball rolling. As the popular saying goes: "Foil hat time".

Mr. Makari;

The simple truth is that we don't know, and are unlikely to know any time in the near future. It's clear that their history has something to do with the Sleepers-- who I believe are the 'Statics' that my old Jove briefings discussed --but beyond that ancient history, and the assumption that the Talocan are the precursors of those we'd call the 'Jove,' I'd say we know very little indeed. What I do feel is that whatever is happening involves the Sleepers, Rogue Drones, and Sanshas.

The possibilities are as such:

1) The Jove have become Sleepers themselves, to save themselves from the wasting disease; the Sansha are taking advantage of this and salvaging spoils.

2) The Jove have in fact all wasted away, and the Sansha have been salvaging spoils.

3) The Jove remain and continue to experiment with themselves and on us, in an attempt to stave off the disease; they are colluding with the Sanshas either as part of the experiment (using the Sanshas to harvest samples), or to fight the Sleepers.

4) The Jove have succumbed to a Sansha invasion, and are now either part of the Sanshas, or are besieged by Sanshas.

Of all of these, I feel that the second part of option four is preferable; because it means that they still resist, and that Jove technology won't be absorbed completely by the Sansha.

Mind, none of these options explain the strange occurrences we see with regard to Rogue Drones, or the seeming resemblance between Sleeper technology and some rogue drone hives.

In any case, I'll have to review my materials. I'm stuck in the office at the moment, and all of my reference material is stored as hardcopy with the DC57/Ascendency material in my hangar.

(edit: please note that references will be added following review of materials. Points of note; imagery of a Sansha fleet at a Jove station; similarities of Jove ships and certain Sleeper structures; apparent similarities between Rogue Drone hives and certain Sleeper structures; outside intervention in advanced artificial intelligences; Sleeper facilities under quarantine, with Talocan derelicts or other signs of invasion or raiding.)

Astute observations, but a thought occurs.

As I remember it (please do fact check me), the Jovian Prosper Vault incident was the last time any Jovian organisation made any official statement, the statement itself being that they had re-established total control and expelled the Sansha's fleet.

After that, total blackout, nothing.

Thoughts?

Archived materials are somewhat unwieldy but I do have a few interesting bits:

http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1428669&_ga=1.147673399.1872367541.1396985190

http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1363158

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1560191#post1560191

((Also via EVE source, and somewhat disappointed that I can't find anything else. Can ESource be referenced?))

nope, they were real. But then I killed them... For their cookies...

But reading news stuff is soooo boring!!

Hm. And there have been no other diplomatic envoys since? So-- last confirmed word is YC106, with the Prosper Vault crisis in YC111?

Hm. Researching.

Sure is alot of speculation without any evidence going on around these parts.

It's more fun watching you lot bark up every tree near by searching for clues.

Ah, such a pity, I had hoped you would gift us with your self evident and infinitely vast knowledge in the form of an inspired and groundbreaking revelation.

Instead we get pompous sniping.

Truly, doing your part for the betterment of humanity. I applaud you.

Now, moving swiftly on.