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Ishukone Attitude Encouraging
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Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#1 - 2014-04-07 14:45:33 UTC
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Ishukone’s legacy as a corporation that believes diplomacy is a more powerful tool than gunfire will continue to be forged


I can only hope that this is sincere and real in the hearts and motives of the leadership of Ishukone. If it is, then this is bold leadership willing to take the risk of unpopularity that peacemaking brings in the current culture of war.

DSTON wishes all success to those who carry this attitude to the logical conclusion; the conclusion of peace and the end to senseless war.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-04-07 14:56:48 UTC
The Caldari sure do love dragging things out.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-04-07 15:04:08 UTC
I wasn't aware that "this evening" constituted dragging it out. Seems to me like a similary inquiry anywhere else would take a few years.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-04-07 15:09:18 UTC
I hope it will end with Tea Maker Ceremony.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-04-07 15:18:05 UTC
Not the inquiry, the whole thing.

Everytime a single thing happens, we get page after page of predictions and posturing and liberals this and patriots that. Very little wait and see. With Republic news, when there is any, it is very blunt, straightforward and simple. You Caldari love to say a thing a hundred ways with two hundred meanings and fifty shades of intent. Check the step ten times before you take it.

In some ways it is admirable but is searching for the most efficient step always the most efficient action? Why still the secrecy, why still the cryptic half-threats?

Anyway, it was not a comment on Caldari efficiency, maybe the opposite.

But I am just stopping in to see the field before the battle. This thread has places to go that have nothing to do with me.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.
Goa Chai
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-04-07 15:21:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Goa Chai
Ayallah wrote:
Not the inquiry, the whole thing.

Everytime a single thing happens, we get page after page of predictions and posturing and liberals this and patriots that. Very little wait and see. With Republic news, when there is any, it is very blunt, straightforward and simple. You Caldari love to say a thing a hundred ways with two hundred meanings and fifty shades of intent. Check the step ten times before you take it.

Bureaucracies will bureaucrat. Big smile
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-04-07 15:49:34 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
Not the inquiry, the whole thing.

Everytime a single thing happens, we get page after page of predictions and posturing and liberals this and patriots that. Very little wait and see. With Republic news, when there is any, it is very blunt, straightforward and simple. You Caldari love to say a thing a hundred ways with two hundred meanings and fifty shades of intent. Check the step ten times before you take it.

In some ways it is admirable but is searching for the most efficient step always the most efficient action? Why still the secrecy, why still the cryptic half-threats?


Having seen the way the Sebiestor clans do business with one another, I think you and I may be looking at different realities. The Republic's news services may favour a briefer summary of the news than NOH does, but I'd bet that there's just as much discussion going on there as in the State. I know I've seen enough soul-searching and hand-wrangling everywhere, even if it is done quietly in private channels rather than out in the open like this.

But what's to be done? this is a public discussion forum. We can either pick over the political events of the time that matter to us, or we can...

I don't know. Discuss the virtues of tight pants, boosters, and self-aggrandizement, I suppose.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Calairis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-04-07 16:05:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Calairis
Quote:
Ishukone’s legacy as a corporation that believes diplomacy is a more powerful tool than gunfire will continue to be forged

Ye gods, just try to diagram that sentence. Yikes.

Ston Momaki wrote:
I can only hope that this is sincere and real in the hearts and motives of the leadership of Ishukone. If it is, then this is bold leadership willing to take the risk of unpopularity that peacemaking brings in the current culture of war.

Let's be real here. The way Ishukone became the megacorp it is today was by keeping profits and market advantage 'in the hearts and motives' of the leadership. These late developments are no different.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-04-07 16:08:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Calairis wrote:
Quote:
Ishukone’s legacy as a corporation that believes diplomacy is a more powerful tool than gunfire will continue to be forged

Ye gods, just try to diagram that sentence. Yikes.


It's rather more elegant in Napanii.

Haajakin arekainara Ishukonesu okusaika laitsao ukeiru surianats rikkone" Literally: "+We-will+ +continue-[to]-build+ Ishukone Corporation's legacy [of] believing [that] +discussion-[is]-superior+ [to] battle.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#10 - 2014-04-07 16:48:39 UTC
Then again, if you look at the size of Ishukone compared to larger okusaiken, like Kalaakiota, it really behooves them not to focus on any strategy where weight of numbers can be brought to bear, eh?

I did also want to point out that few things cost so many lives as diplomacy done badly. Just something to remember.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-04-08 15:19:14 UTC
Just down with this treachery already.
Ishukone must be put into its place.
Corporations must unite together.
Gallentean occupants on Caldari Prime must be killed.

And the Federation must be destroyed.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.