Ships & Modules

"Don't mix your tank" is a pretty useful mantra for eve

You want a DCU, plate, maybe MAAR, and some eanm's up in that thing


Also if you're using t2 ships you should consider blocking up the res holes.

the sacrilege slot layout up makes it mainly a pvp ship. you can't get damage and tank for pve, on pvp you can get tank, prop, some damage and a metric ton of ewar.

btw, outside of caldari you wont find many range bonuses on missiles, the sacrilege is the only one that comes to mind.

might be time to broaden your weapon selection, last big patch made it so you can skip the small guns to get the higher tier T2 guns. so if you want to try armor and your main activity is pve, lazors are the way to go. the laser wielding line up has some nice new boats like the Navy variants, the new soe boats and the absolution.(a fairly long term goal) and some of the most effective pvp ships when considered over their cost, like the maller, omen and Zealot. oh, and you also get the legion. arguably the best solo pve ship for low C whs and lowsec.


keep in mind that turrets, unlike missiles have some positional requirements you'll have to get used to (you cant just park your ship and shoot the baddies), but once you do and learn to fire the right lazor color, you'll do better than with missiles.

Yeah, the Sacrilege is a PVP ship, pure and simple. If you want to diversify your PVE lineup, Amarr is not really the best way to go. Thanks to being largely unable to select damage type, our choice of PVE activities is pretty harshly limited outside of rainbow tanked rats in Incursions or wormholes or the like.

My suggestion is to move to Minmatar. They have a decent mixture of armor and shield tanking, and probably the best PVE boats in the game besides Caldari.

A Typhoon, for example, might be right up your alley.

Reading comprehension, get some.

I was talking about lasers being restricted by damage type (you know, the "largely unable" part of that sentence), after having agreed with someone else about how the Sacrilege is a PVP boat.

She wants to do PVE, hence not Sacrilege. Which means lasers. And lasers aren't that awesome for PVE except in specific places against specific rats.

Dam forum ate my post...
The sac does fine in missions. Missiles and a double rep( try maar and a t2 rep)
It will do fine in mission you just cant be brain dead like mzost missions runners.
If you like the ship then fly it.

700+ DPS against BSes is fine for PvE. I think Sacrilege would be fine against Angels.

comparitivly. they are still fine once you hit t2, generally you can push out enough thermal to get the job done.

being limited by damage type is moot on pve, really, the only weapon system with true damage selection are the missiles, and depending on the hull that's not really an option most of the time (kinetic damage bonus). projectiles do have limited damage selection, but you are actually selecting ranges primarily, and no one in their right mind would use anything but the shortest range ammo. in the end you are stuck with phased and multifrecuency or scorch. only reason phased is considered better is only because thermal is "acceptable" against all rats, its not good, just acceptable. and with MF 40% is thermal anyway.

but, PvE laser boats don't care about falloff and they have room both for TCs and TEs, the damage you lose to suboptimal damage type you gain in application and low target downtime on new waves. and this is more noticeable the less and less SP you have in gunnery and other support skills. and im guessing the OP has lvl3 - lvl4s on most related skills.

not to mention, artys are pretty much restricted to lvl4s and battleship platforms, while beams just work.

in the end, lasers on pve are IMHO, definitely better than blasters/rails, talking about projectiles is kinda offtopic, op asked for hulls that can ARMOR tank, that can pve and that can be useful for someone recently switching over from shield. that leaves you with gallente and ammar.

armor tanking minmatarr battleships and some cruisers/HACs works fine, but you need all the SP you can get, or pimp it. going the ammar route can get you a pretty effective mission boat in a month.

btw, some people seem to shy away from recommending HACs for pve, the last round of buffs gave them a stronger capacitor, and more fitting room, they can't perma run tanks (thankfully), but with some management ships like the cerberus and Vagabond can be very impressive pve boats with medium reps, with perfect skills small reps work fine. i used a vaga to blitz with a deadspace small booster, found out 3 missions in that it was overkill and t2 small booster is more than enough. and HAM cerberus on highsec DED complexes are the new tengus. you can even fly them with a web and point and kill any explorer that gets cranky over you getting in his plex.

Actually, the deimos has no issues permarunning a single repper. Not sure if you need a single cap mod to do it either.

You can drop 3 LSE on a Deimos, resist rigs and lows full of mag stabs and TE. It's actually not that bad but still; medium weapon systems in lvl 4 is kinda terrible due to range and dps, as it should be. Astarte can do a butt ton of dps but is still limited by range.