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Scorpion or Raven Navy Issue on the way to a Golem?

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Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#41 - 2014-04-11 13:43:37 UTC
Wait, so your "average fit recommendation" translates to "in my specific situation and I have no experience elsewhere"? Duly noted.

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If you don't need hilariously high tank put some targeting mods there. SNI have high amount of med slots, lots of
fitting oportunities


Exactly; fit an AB.
Chris Winter
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#42 - 2014-04-11 16:28:52 UTC
Jeremiah Saken wrote:
Quote:
you'll get CPU issues or a extremly expensive/Christmass tree/please gank me RNI


I've build cheap fit with 25k shield, 7369 salvo dmg, 76,5% EM, 81,2% Therm (agains BR).

When comes to put rigs on it i found that RNI hull increase explosion radius while rigor rig reduce it. It's contradiction, or
i have some outdated EFT with error?

The RNI bonus reduces explosion radius. You can test this by changing your caldari BS skill in EFT and checking the loaded ammo info--with higher BS skill the radius is smaller.

The bonus is just really awkwardly phrased.
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#43 - 2014-04-11 16:36:42 UTC
Quote:
Wait, so your "average fit recommendation" translates to "in my specific situation and I have no experience elsewhere"? Duly noted.


With that average guri fit you can do all L4, it just need to change specific hardners.

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Exactly; fit an AB.


LolLolLol

You quite hilarious.

Fitting AB would make a different in 1/15 missions.

Still you didn't explain why i should use it Lol

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The bonus is just really awkwardly phrased.


Thank you. This is really ankward

So BS5 will reduce explosion radius by 25%?
Do rigor bonus stack? Is it 45% (3x15%) reduction?

"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#44 - 2014-04-11 18:08:51 UTC
Ship bonuses are always exempted from stacking penalties and rigors do not stack so the bonus in total would be 1.25 x 1.15 x 1.15 x 1.15 = 1.9

You'd think that for someone who's so sure about his opinions he'd know some basic game mechanics.
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#45 - 2014-04-14 13:17:49 UTC
Jeremiah Saken wrote:
Quote:
you'll get CPU issues or a extremly expensive/Christmass tree/please gank me RNI


I've build cheap fit with 25k shield, 7369 salvo dmg, 76,5% EM, 81,2% Therm (agains BR).

When comes to put rigs on it i found that RNI hull increase explosion radius while rigor rig reduce it. It's contradiction, or
i have some outdated EFT with error?



It's a bonus, but it reducess the explosion radius, that is the entire trick of the RNI.

aside from that could you show this fit of yours.

because although 25K shield 7369 salvo damage and those resistances sounds all nice and stuff, it lacks suficient info to rate it.
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#46 - 2014-04-14 20:18:42 UTC
Quote:
aside from that could you show this fit of yours.


Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II
X-Large Clarity Ward Booster I
Large Shield Extender II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
EM Ward Field II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I

25k shield, 76,5% EM, 81,2%therm, 7369 with fury. My skill are all on IV.

It's for lulz fit. I've never fly RNI. Just want to check if RNI can still have viable tank. Cheap and tanky, with better DPS than SNI and still good tank.

"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#47 - 2014-04-14 23:52:07 UTC
Jeremiah Saken wrote:
Quote:
aside from that could you show this fit of yours.


Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Power Diagnostic System II
X-Large Clarity Ward Booster I
Large Shield Extender II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
EM Ward Field II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I

25k shield, 76,5% EM, 81,2%therm, 7369 with fury. My skill are all on IV.

It's for lulz fit. I've never fly RNI. Just want to check if RNI can still have viable tank. Cheap and tanky, with better DPS than SNI and still good tank.


Just curious why mixed buffer and active tank?
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#48 - 2014-04-15 06:17:50 UTC
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Just curious why mixed buffer and active tank?


It never ment to fly. I was just curious how much shield HP i can get and still able to deal damage.

Without LSE II it gets 20k shield (boost amplifier instead).

Resistances (against BR, Lvl V BS skill):

RNI EM - 76,5% Therm - 81,2%
SNI EM - 81,2% Therm - 85%.

"I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote. I love to sail forbidden seas..." - Herman Melville
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#49 - 2014-04-25 01:12:15 UTC
Navy scorpion:
4 BCU
2 TP
rigor + flare rigs
=
2 shots will pop destroyer and anything larger up to battleships with meta 4 guns.
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