These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

So pod kills, in secure space, are just bullying, are not they?

First post
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#101 - 2014-04-07 16:32:39 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:

Was excited about incarna and removal of dock3d up safety...


The only thing worse than hanging onto the dream of WiS is the idea that they would have let you violence the people walking in the stations

This would not have happened.



1 Was.

2 Room safety is fine but expecting that station wide is ridiculous.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#102 - 2014-04-07 16:46:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:

Was excited about incarna and removal of dock3d up safety...


The only thing worse than hanging onto the dream of WiS is the idea that they would have let you violence the people walking in the stations

This would not have happened.



1 Was.

2 Room safety is fine but expecting that station wide is ridiculous.


1 Was what? You saying there arent people holding onto the idea that WiS woudl have allowed instation violences?

2 Why would anyone come out of their room? And why would CONCORD officers not be present like city guards to tazer you and sling you in the drunk tank for brawling or attempted murder?

Thats even if it had been coded that your character could attack others in the first place, which given the development strategies of CCP so far seems highly unlikely

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#103 - 2014-04-07 17:16:36 UTC
100m for whoever pods the OP and hand delivers the corpse to me. 200m if there is significant verifiable SP lost.

This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Improve the forums, support this idea: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=345133
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#104 - 2014-04-07 17:57:58 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
100m for whoever pods the OP and hand delivers the corpse to me. 200m if there is significant verifiable SP lost.



I'll add another 100m to that.

Primary Test Subject • SmackTalker Elite
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#105 - 2014-04-07 18:07:47 UTC
Please define secure space. I can think of none in eve.

Founder of Violet Squadron, a small gang NPSI community! Mail me for more information.

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie's Space Mediation Service!
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#106 - 2014-04-07 18:16:05 UTC
Better question - with the Erotica 1 thing, and CCP having said essentially that if you do something where you stand to get no profit for it youre harassing someone, is it bannable?

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Teyr Schmitt
An Errant Venture
#107 - 2014-04-07 18:23:57 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Please define secure space. I can think of none in eve.


I think he means sov null
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#108 - 2014-04-07 18:43:35 UTC
Teyr Schmitt wrote:
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Please define secure space. I can think of none in eve.


I think he means sov null WH space. Oh and nerf highsec.


yep

This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Improve the forums, support this idea: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=345133
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#109 - 2014-04-07 18:48:27 UTC
Posting in yet another Highsec should be Safesec thread.





Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Grape Juice
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#110 - 2014-04-07 20:11:54 UTC
BrundleMeth wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
I like corpses.

Yeah, everyone should crack open a cold one now and then...

Giggidy
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#111 - 2014-04-08 01:48:19 UTC
I think a few people need to be added to the Kill-It-Forward queue in retalliation for this atrocity of a thread.

I wish I'd seen it in time to dedicate my most recent miner kills to it.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Tran Tuyen
Amadio Family Enterprises
#112 - 2014-04-08 02:09:49 UTC
Confirming shooting a spaceship in a spaceship shooting game is bullying.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#113 - 2014-04-08 09:55:17 UTC
This thread is a perfect example of cyber bullying & I demand that the OP be punished accordingly.

This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
Teochoilae
Red Circle of Death
#114 - 2014-04-10 09:02:29 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Mina Sebiestar wrote:

Was excited about incarna and removal of dock3d up safety...


The only thing worse than hanging onto the dream of WiS is the idea that they would have let you violence the people walking in the stations

This would not have happened.



1 Was.

2 Room safety is fine but expecting that station wide is ridiculous.


1 Was what? You saying there arent people holding onto the idea that WiS woudl have allowed instation violences?

2 Why would anyone come out of their room? And why would CONCORD officers not be present like city guards to tazer you and sling you in the drunk tank for brawling or attempted murder?

Thats even if it had been coded that your character could attack others in the first place, which given the development strategies of CCP so far seems highly unlikely


There might be Concord officers in station, but you still can't make us care. If we want to kill you in station or in hi-sec, we will find a way.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#115 - 2014-04-10 09:18:05 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
100m for whoever pods the OP and hand delivers the corpse to me. 200m if there is significant verifiable SP lost.
Is this a new form of Goon recruitment scam?

"Just bring me the corpse. It'll be all right."
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#116 - 2014-04-10 09:20:15 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
...and CCP having said essentially that if you do something where you stand to get no profit for it youre harassing someone...

Where did they say this?
Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
#117 - 2014-04-10 09:24:15 UTC
Hmmm is OP Ripard Teg alt?

Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#118 - 2014-04-10 16:56:31 UTC
Teochoilae wrote:


There might be Concord officers in station, but you still can't make us care. If we want to kill you in station.... we will find a way.


Go for it. Grand prize for the first person to kill anyone in a station

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Herzyr
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#119 - 2014-04-10 20:37:32 UTC
What happens when you ''park'' your car in a place where you are not allowed to park?

You get fined that's what happens, in this case, your precious pod.
Going AFK is leaving/parking your car where it shouldn't be.

If you really care that much about your implants, transfer them to a jump clone when you log out but FFS don't do anything risky while you are wearing them.
Vyl Vit
#120 - 2014-04-10 20:57:31 UTC
Rather than join in the degenerated back-and-forth the OP inspired, with all its chest beating and high-falooting, super-moral declaratives, I'm going to answer the inferred question:

YES, pod kills are bullying.

Why? They're unnecessary. It's that simple.

They may be satisfying. They may prove some obscure point (akin to winning a pissing contest). They may even serve some substantial political point, or satisfy an on-going, interstellar issue. However, in factual, actuality, since a pod can't shoot back, and the appearance of a pod signifies someone has LOST the fight, shooting the pod has no functional necessity and therefore has to fall into the category of getting ones personal digs in.

No amount of rationalization, philosophical assertion or self-satisfied bluster can change this fundamental fact. SO, why? Let's see. Does podding someone present a beneficial circumstance that did not exist before? No. It does not. Does it create a circumstance that can be seen as humiliating on a certain level? Yes. It does. Is a person in a pod helpless to defend against being podded (aside from the slim chance of escape)? Yes. Undeniably.

Furthermore, does podding someone bestow upon the podder something required to advance or remain successful in EVE? No. It does not. (Not even if their corporation has a podding quota.) Is there a certain amount of purely negative emotional stimuli within the podder by the podding? Yes. This, too, is undeniable and supported by modern medical science in terms of synapse firing and region of the brain where this occurs.


THEREFORE: It is bullying. Water is wet. Concrete is hard. Podding is bullying. Have a nice day.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.