Crime & Punishment

I read this post last night at a bar and didn't have time or patience to reply from my iphone. I think the number of hostile posts you received suggest you ruffled a feather or two. Keep doing what you're doing and post the results. The stories behind what you uncover would be interesting.

I'd like to see the ratio of actual work going into subterfuge (corp thieves who really work at infiltrating and then betraying the corp) and how many just get lucky with either a complete lack of vigilance on the corp's part, or just getting an opportunity and deciding to act.

My old corp had a theft once while evacuating from a lost station, and when I asked the pilot why he did it (he stole from his corpmates, not the corp) he told me he never thought of stealing before and wasn't his intention. But when he realized he had a couple billion worth of goods handed over to him to carrier haul he felt he couldn't resist.

I did enjoy the TheMittani's "Secrets of a Solar Spymaster", not to mention "Sins of a Solar Spymaster" which I had a good laugh. I believe, as long as you don't show favor with any group of players or play style, an Intelligence Broker could make many connections within Eve.

I have spoken directly to a few pilots out there since this thread that are interested in the game of "intelligence and espionage" and hope that I could one day have a hand in building some type of community that deals in this type of gameplay for all to use. But time can only tell. I have seen many Corporations that advertise this fall due to losing interest over time.

Though I'm sure they'd be fascinating, I'd see how much those uncovered were willing to pay to stay in the shadows...

Has anyone mentioned yet that there already is a guy who does this?

Yeah, that's the guy. That mofo is pretty scary. If it's not hacks, then he is just insanely good.

I don't like speaking out of character, but I will here just to give you a bit of perspective. I used to be in the Army irl, and in my unit we did a lot of information gathering. In this instance I am talking more about scouting, LRRP, battlefield logistics and the sort. Usually finding information that could be instantly acted upon and relaying that back to the FEBA. I had a knack for this sort of thing, and really enjoyed it.

In New Eden, I am intrigued by the same sort of things. I am training my skills up so that I can utilize the CovOps and Recon ships. I would actually like to come up with a sort of "Reconnaissance Doctrine" for EVE, utilizing current ships and modules, and relying on my own life experience to inform it. In fact, I have made this a sort of mission for me- one that I hope not only allows me to become an awesome intelligence gatherer, but hopefully something that others can learn from as well. I can think of a few applications for this type of activity, and I will be able to expand the practice into fields besides just Fleet Ops.

So yeah, I enjoy gathering Intel. It may be a bit cliche, but knowledge is power, and those who take the time to learn about the enemy are far more prepared to meet them in battle.

Keep fighting the good fight Dalto, and dont ever let anyone tell you that your chosen path in anything less than inspired.

Dalto, there are all kinds of players that perform intel gathering activities, but only a few of them actually enjoy connecting the dots, and smile when they notice a new web strand. Funny, I found this post while searching on google for intel on something seemingly unrelated. I worked as a debt collector for the United States Department of the Treasury a few years ago, and was quickly placed on a specialized team of 8 people that were more than talented at finding debtors deemed "non existent" by other collectors. We had all sorts of tools available to us, social security number tracking software, and were encouraged to use any number of tools online we could think of, including social medias, google, local property assessors, you name it. I learned there that anything and anyone can serve as a skip-tracing tool. I called neighbors, librarians, teachers, checked school websites, public paintball team members' data, noticed similarities in misspellings and word use, the list is endless.

The point is, some people DO experience actual enjoyment in connecting the dots of background checks, and there are just as many skip-tracing avenues in Eve as there are in RL. Keep it up! If you're good at it, you can even turn it into a RL career.

This is very relevant, and a fake persona or two on social sites would be useful for hunter as well as hunted. Of course, providing false info is against most if not all EULAs, and something I would never dream of doing, because my soul is pure.


I find that maintaining eye contact and socially appropriate expressions are effective credibility enhancing techniques when lying, but that won't apply with voice-only coms. That being said, there are a variety of voice-changing software options to get one 'into character'. I fully agree that having a well thought out back story is essential, even if one's a sociopath.

Perhaps intel collection & analysis for a client's tactical advantage (e.g. scanning adversary fits to establish potential patterns for exploitation)... and/or psyops- infiltration, assassination, embezzlement? Sounds naughty...

I appreciate the encouragement and I want to draw attention to "skip-tracing". In connecting the dots, though I am typically good at getting the answers, there have been some, especially my last "Test" that I honestly could not find an alt, unless I infiltrated a Corp or contacted their previous Corpmates and CEO's and do a little social engineering, which I did not, since it was just an exhibition, and more about me gaining some credibility among certain circles. So of course when it counts, I was unable to perform!