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Dev blog: The 49-U6U Slaughterhouse

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Verite Rendition
F.R.E.E. Explorer
#21 - 2014-04-04 20:07:33 UTC
Aww, you remembered the Serenity influence map. Thank you.Smile
mkint
#22 - 2014-04-04 20:11:46 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
TL;DR - Serenity has the same game design flaws that makes null sov a stagnated mess, just like TQ, *Snip* Removed off topic part of the post. ISD Ezwal. And that CCP still feels like that's something to brag about.

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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#23 - 2014-04-04 20:19:33 UTC

Awesome news.... I always find these interesting.


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Imiarr Timshae
Funny Men In Funny Hats
#24 - 2014-04-04 22:42:13 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
The people above me who said :

1. *Snip* Removed reply to an edited out part of the quoted post. ISD Ezwal.
2. Talking about the China server undermines CCP's claims of "single shard".
3. "Eve Is Real - Except where reality isn't legal *Snip* Removed reply to an edited out part of the quoted post. ISD Ezwal.

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Markku Laaksonen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#25 - 2014-04-04 23:40:21 UTC
I see a lot of things about botting in Serenity. Are these accounts first hand experience? Or is it an assumption, "because China."?

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PFU Consortium
#26 - 2014-04-05 00:39:14 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
CCP Leeloo wrote:
The Erebus-class Titan was the most utilized Titan of the four, followed by the Amarrian Avatar class.

Is that 'most utilized' or just 'most destroyed'? The attached chart shows how many were destroyed, sure, but I've heard that "Leviathans have so much EHP that not a single one was primaried or destroyed in B-R.", which implies that Leviathans see a lot more use than commonly-cited statistics seem to imply, a fact which is corroborated by Leviathans on B-R killmails.

*Snip* Removed off topic part of the post. ISD Ezwal.
Bob Niac
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-04-05 03:38:07 UTC
"I think we're gonna need a bigger boat."

So if we have Titans going pop like a kid with bubble wrap.. Does that mean there are more expensive capital ships on the horizon?

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Clan Sammy Trade Empire
#28 - 2014-04-05 04:14:01 UTC
Simply epic!
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#29 - 2014-04-05 04:40:57 UTC
As mentioned before by CCP staff, mixing the servers won't be anywhere possible in the near future, but what I said then I still would like now;

It would be great if we could send out Incursions to the Chinese server, and they could to ours.
Lets disrupt each-others servers... with a big impact. Maybe some more advanced Sasha waves as exist now.
Also make it very expensive to do, so, its like a real event.

I do not roleplay, but I would envision something like this;

We Tranquility pay Sashas Nation to communicate with their dimensional counterparts in Serenity, that stuff (isk, goods, etc) is available to cause dismay everywhere in Serenity. Of course, Serenity could pay Sashas Nation to disrupt Tranquility.

This way the servers would not have to get a player connection, but we could troll each other a lot.

Maybe have a payment scale to disrupt the other's server;

Disrupt a system (price X)
Disrupt a constellation (price X * A)
Disrupt a region (price X * B)
Disrupt all regions (price X * C)
Etc...

Sounds like a nice meta-game, not?

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2014-04-05 07:42:00 UTC
Liner Xiandra wrote:
With every post about Serenity, you're undermining your Single Shard, One Universe gimmick. But ok.

I agree in principle, but really the only alternative would be to just not talk about it at all. I suppose they don't really talk about us much. Maybe in filtered terms.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#31 - 2014-04-05 13:35:34 UTC
I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!

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Oliver Stoned
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2014-04-05 14:57:10 UTC
I believe things would be different on the Serenity server if some of the Tranquility Alliances (like Goonswarm) had access to it.
Internet Knight
Brothers of Tyr
Goonswarm Federation
#33 - 2014-04-05 17:49:17 UTC
So, language barriers notwithstanding, how do I log in to Serenity as an American?
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Shadow Cartel
#34 - 2014-04-06 03:16:14 UTC
Just a painful reminder of EVE not being single shard anymore.

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Kyros Emerson
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2014-04-06 05:32:26 UTC
It is sad that this was toted in the OP as 'breaking the record' set by the TQ battle of B-R for most destructive in history.
As mentioned several times in other posts above, the number of titans destroyed may have been similar but the isk VALUE of the titans destroyed (which was the driving force behind the media storm for B-R) was no-where near what you see here in the Singularity 49-U battle. ISK Conversion to real money :: 1 Tranquility titan = 10 Singularity Titans

If I could RMT 100 titans on Singularity and then self-destruct them all would that break the record again?

Its a real red-hot-poker-to-the-eye to say an event that occurred on a geolocation-locked server (without the stringent security against RMT and such things) broke a record that was set by a huge number of legitimate players who fought hard for their isk and ships.

Come on CCP, that hurts.
Brazos Pareka
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2014-04-06 06:05:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Brazos Pareka
Internet Knight wrote:
So, language barriers notwithstanding, how do I log in to Serenity as an American?


That's very easy if you want to log on the Serenity. They got English version also. EDIT: I made mistake, there is no english version in serenity's client. The setting is for change to English voice. I misunderstood it.
The difficulty is that all Chinese online game have to be launched juvenile protect system. It means you have to register a account with Chinese id number. if you don't , you will be regarded as juvenile. you can only play the game two hours per day.
Markku Laaksonen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#37 - 2014-04-06 14:54:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Markku Laaksonen
Kyros Emerson wrote:
As mentioned several times in other posts above (without any kind of sources cited)... the isk VALUE of the titans destroyed... was no-where near what you see here... 1 Tranquility titan = 10 Singularity Titans

If I could RMT 100 titans on Singularity and then self-destruct them all would that break the record again?

[Serenity] (without the stringent security against RMT and such things) broke a record that was set by a huge number of legitimate players who fought hard for their isk and ships.


So I ask again, where's the facts to back up these claims? Are these first hand accounts from players on Serenity? Where is the evidence that botting is rampant on the Chinese server? Because right now every claim I've seen related to Botting on the Chinese server feels like a stereotype that because they're Chinese, and maybe a lot of botting gold farmers are Chinese, the Chinese EVE server must therefore be full of botting gold farmers.

What kind of evidence is there to support these claims? What is the Yuan cost of a PLEX on the Chinese server converted to USD? From there, what is the ISK:Yuan ratio compared to the ISK:USD ratio? Where are some facts to back this stuff up?

EDIT: I heavily edited the quote to get to the point of the matter and move past the "that hurts my feelings CCP cause they're all botters and I work hard for the ISK" mentality. The italicized section was added by me for emphasis.

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Internet Knight
Brothers of Tyr
Goonswarm Federation
#38 - 2014-04-06 18:47:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Internet Knight
Brazos Pareka wrote:
That's very easy if you want to log on the Serenity. They got English version also.
The difficulty is that all Chinese online game have to be launched juvenile protect system. It means you have to register a account with Chinese id number. if you don't , you will be regarded as juvenile. you can only play the game two hours per day.

As an American, would I be able to do that? Do you have any helpful stuff I can use to google around to figure it out on my own?

Does Serenity have its own forum URL and forum accounts so that an account on Serenity can't access here? Or are the accounts in the same "namespace" so to speak so that an account on Tranquility can also log in to Serenity?
Brazos Pareka
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2014-04-06 20:04:23 UTC
Internet Knight wrote:
Brazos Pareka wrote:
That's very easy if you want to log on the Serenity. They got English version also.
The difficulty is that all Chinese online game have to be launched juvenile protect system. It means you have to register a account with Chinese id number. if you don't , you will be regarded as juvenile. you can only play the game two hours per day.

As an American, would I be able to do that? Do you have any helpful stuff I can use to google around to figure it out on my own?

Does Serenity have its own forum URL and forum accounts so that an account on Serenity can't access here? Or are the accounts in the same "namespace" so to speak so that an account on Tranquility can also log in to Serenity?


No, an account on Tranquility can not log in to Serenity. That's absolutely two different account. And you need to download another client from Tiancity, and register an account in Tiancity.

This is the address of the home page. http://eve.tiancity.com/homepage/v5/ You can try to understand it by yourself.Cool
And I don't think there is any helpful stuff to google. So if you have any question or you really want to try playing Serenity, please send mail to me and ask.Big smile
Brazos Pareka
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2014-04-06 21:33:08 UTC
Markku Laaksonen wrote:
Kyros Emerson wrote:
As mentioned several times in other posts above (without any kind of sources cited)... the isk VALUE of the titans destroyed... was no-where near what you see here... 1 Tranquility titan = 10 Singularity Titans

If I could RMT 100 titans on Singularity and then self-destruct them all would that break the record again?

[Serenity] (without the stringent security against RMT and such things) broke a record that was set by a huge number of legitimate players who fought hard for their isk and ships.


So I ask again, where's the facts to back up these claims? Are these first hand accounts from players on Serenity? Where is the evidence that botting is rampant on the Chinese server? Because right now every claim I've seen related to Botting on the Chinese server feels like a stereotype that because they're Chinese, and maybe a lot of botting gold farmers are Chinese, the Chinese EVE server must therefore be full of botting gold farmers.

What kind of evidence is there to support these claims? What is the Yuan cost of a PLEX on the Chinese server converted to USD? From there, what is the ISK:Yuan ratio compared to the ISK:USD ratio? Where are some facts to back this stuff up?

EDIT: I heavily edited the quote to get to the point of the matter and move past the "that hurts my feelings CCP cause they're all botters and I work hard for the ISK" mentality. The italicized section was added by me for emphasis.


I can give you some numbers. A PLEX cost 60 yuan which is 9.6 USD. A PLEX cost 3.6B isk in Jita. The price of 100M isk is 1.45 yuan.
You can buy 8 Abbadons if you sell a plex. A Tritanium worth 12 isk.
There are a lot of reason of the high price of plex. Botting is one of the reasons. But of course, it's not the main reason. Here is some difference about PLEX between TQ and Serenity.
You don't need to transfer character by isk (PLEX) forcefully. You can trade a character with real money freely.
The reward of the buddy programme is not PLEX , but instead of adding game time directly.
Tiancity never offer discount on PLEX. Don't ask me, I don't know why.
So that, you can see there is less numbers of plex in the market. Of course, it will get higher price than Tranquility.

Back to botting issue. According to my short experience of playing TQ. I have to say it's really hard to judge which server 's botting is more rampant. I can see a lot of RMT website selling all things in TQ. And bot website sells bot which can even support win8, the serenity's bot still can only support win7. When I do mission in high sec, I found a lot of miner's fleet seemed like botting fleet in TQ.

There is a lot of botting in Serenity indeed, but is it more rampant than TQ?? I don't have enough information to judge that.
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