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Is it safe to play the Bad Guy in Eve still? Bans?

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The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2014-04-04 02:22:13 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
On the one hand, the OP is dumb for starting this dumb thread.

On the other, I'm even dumber for responding in this dumb thread.

I'm dumb, you're dumb, this game is dumb.

Dumb! Dumb! Dumb!

Mr Epeen Cool


I approve this message.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2014-04-04 02:23:41 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Do anything you want to anyone's eve assets. In game, say anything you want within the EULA/TOS. Out of game, Trollish Blog/EN24/TMC/various forum posts are ok.

Repeated humiliation sessions over voice comms or other third party programs are not ok. The line in the sand was drawn pretty fcking clearly; a lot of people just refuse to see it.

And honestly, there aren't many people in the Eve community that sink so low as to warrant a ban by these standards. In fact, I only know of one such case.


Glad its clear to you. Oh, btw, it was only one session. Until that day, E1 hadn't met the guy.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Goa Chai
Doomheim
#43 - 2014-04-04 02:23:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Goa Chai
As if it's hard to create an account solely for doing dirt, which in no way jeopardizes your clean accounts should your dirty accounts be banned.

If someone complains because their account got banned after doing some dirty, they did it wrong. Hell I bet even St. Veldspar has accounts he uses for shady ****.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#44 - 2014-04-04 02:36:22 UTC
Goa Chai wrote:
As if it's hard to create an account solely for doing dirt, which in no way jeopardizes your clean accounts should your dirty accounts be banned.

If someone complains because their account got banned after doing some dirty, they did it wrong. Hell I bet even St. Veldspar has accounts he uses for shady ****.


St. Veldspar?

I haven't heard that one before and I thought I'd heard them all. I'm actually chuckling as I type this.

Mr Epeen Cool
Galaxy Pig
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#45 - 2014-04-04 02:42:10 UTC
I share the basic concern of the OP. It seems that a lynch mob can now form and get you banned regardless of wether or not you actually broke any rules.

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Muestereate
Minions LLC
#46 - 2014-04-04 02:44:41 UTC
Goa Chai wrote:
As if it's hard to create an account solely for doing dirt, which in no way jeopardizes your clean accounts should your dirty accounts be banned.

If someone complains because their account got banned after doing some dirty, they did it wrong. Hell I bet even St. Veldspar has accounts he uses for shady ****.



They can tell who's who. If you cross the line and think you can play games by having alts or playing ignorant its not going to work. CCP has magic elves and necropants and those elves?? well lets just say, they see you when your sleeping, they know when your AFK just like Santas elves but meaner.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#47 - 2014-04-04 03:00:45 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Yes it's safe.


Unless you have a CSM blog about it. Lol

Edit: We really don't need another thread on this tbh.


But the CSM can make these posts and not get it moved or done anything to till it reaches sixty pages. Why cant we?

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#48 - 2014-04-04 03:01:31 UTC
Galaxy Pig wrote:
I share the basic concern of the OP. It seems that a lynch mob can now form and get you banned regardless of wether or not you actually broke any rules.


OR whether or not the victim even reports you.

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#49 - 2014-04-04 03:07:07 UTC
Precentor Saggitus wrote:
Personally I don't understand the desire to become a space-telemarketer or a space nigerian prince.

What's the appeal here? Maybe its just me but the amount this goes on seems to have increased substantially since I started playing EVE.


We like being filthy rich.
Muestereate
Minions LLC
#50 - 2014-04-04 03:13:49 UTC
Not everybody is cut out for it
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#51 - 2014-04-04 03:34:33 UTC  |  Edited by: PotatoOverdose
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Do anything you want to anyone's eve assets. In game, say anything you want within the EULA/TOS. Out of game, Trollish Blog/EN24/TMC/various forum posts are ok.

Repeated humiliation sessions over voice comms or other third party programs are not ok. The line in the sand was drawn pretty fcking clearly; a lot of people just refuse to see it.

And honestly, there aren't many people in the Eve community that sink so low as to warrant a ban by these standards. In fact, I only know of one such case.


Glad its clear to you. Oh, btw, it was only one session. Until that day, E1 hadn't met the guy.

Right, there was only ever one session of the "bonus" room. Roll

It's not like there were any previous bonus room related "incidents" of allegedly inappropriate behavior that ended up spilling into the forums. And none of those incidents involved former CCP dudes and E1's former alliance leaders.

No, nothing like that ever happened, and E1's behavior was absolutely spotless before the single incident in question. There were no peanut butter pictures, no pictures of individuals "exposing" themselves due to in-game transactions, etc. etc. No, none of that happened, at all.

Look, there was a case to be made that E1 didn't strictly break any of the rules of the game. Some of us made that case in the relevant threadnaught. CCP, the final arbiter, decided that E1's repeated behavior transgressed too far. E1 was banned, a precedent set by CCP. Deal with it. Wasn't the first time CCP changed the rules on us: remember the dude that got banned for editing the eve wiki to scam supers?

You can disagree with any of the above decisions, but it's moronic to say that CCP's stance is anything less than transparent. Don't demonstrate a repeat pattern of humiliating players out of game in an eve-related context. Simple.
Silvara Nocturn
Nocturn Industries
#52 - 2014-04-04 04:45:42 UTC
If your afraid of the consequences maybe you shouldn't turn to a life of crime.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#53 - 2014-04-04 05:20:06 UTC
Silvara Nocturn wrote:
If your afraid of the consequences maybe you shouldn't turn to a life of crime.


In game or out? Ive lost track

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#54 - 2014-04-04 05:22:21 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Silvara Nocturn wrote:
If your afraid of the consequences maybe you shouldn't turn to a life of crime.


In game or out? Ive lost track


Mad™ will do that to a person.

Mr Epeen Cool
Tesco Ergo Sum
#55 - 2014-04-04 06:08:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tesco Ergo Sum
Mr Epeen wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Silvara Nocturn wrote:
If your afraid of the consequences maybe you shouldn't turn to a life of crime.


In game or out? Ive lost track


Mad™ will do that to a person.

Mr Epeen Cool


Deranged is probably closer to the truth...

Background "a generic psychiatric term for a mental state often described as involving a "loss of contact with reality" a.k.a "lost track" above.
Asia Leigh
Kenshin Industries.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#56 - 2014-04-04 08:14:33 UTC
If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off a certain CSM member known for getting people banned.

Salvos Rhoska wrote:
HOW I NOT GET BAN, GUYS?!


Hello there, Still being an arrogant troll I see.
Apply the damn rules equally >.>
Asia Leigh
Kenshin Industries.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#57 - 2014-04-04 08:18:38 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
IB4TL


Clear CCP double standard here seeing as you still have posting privileges... Just saying
Apply the damn rules equally >.>
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#58 - 2014-04-04 08:18:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Silvara Nocturn wrote:
If your afraid of the consequences maybe you shouldn't turn to a life of crime.


In game or out? Ive lost track



It doesnt matter, once a recidivist, always a recidivist

Once you stop caring about whether you are banned or not, the opportunities to do as you wish in this game of do as you wish multiply a thousand fold.

Freedom? People who follow the rules because they are afraid of punishment dont understand what freedom is.

This is why bans, prisons and executions arent a deterrant

They get in the way of true freedom

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Solecist Project
#59 - 2014-04-04 10:52:50 UTC
This reminds me of something seemingly unrelated, yet still in context.
There's always context, we just need to dig and twist to make it seem fit.

Like when I was browsing through corpads I found this funny corp with a name I don't recall,
but it sounded like they were in for piracy.

My search options were set to piracy and small gangs, so that makes sense.


And oh boy does it make sense.


These guys are pure badasses.


They made it their lifetime goal of killing as many pirates as possible.

Be it beltrats, mission rats, exploration rats... you name them, they kill em!


There are the true bad boys of EvE!


Let's shiver in fear from those who hunt the red cross......

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Bumsicle Wedgie
Doomheim
#60 - 2014-04-04 10:55:56 UTC
No. You will get banned.

Do not upset anyone, ever, anywhere.

You have been warned.