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Oh my god. Mackinaw reskins.

I am going to *love* getting those on my killboard.

So, CCP wants people to return. That is understandable.

But why would they when you marginalize the gameplay of so many? Does this indicate CCP is interested in revisiting content people wanted but CCP ignores?

Lowsec has needed attention for some time now, for example.

What about industrial players? Very little has changed there for many years, and what has changed is mostly unnoticable unless you're into T2 at a high level. Even then, it has boiled down to a series of mild annoyances.

Remember when you touted Incarna as being a new niche in terms of gameplay for a different market? How is that coming along?

A lot of low-end industrialists leave because they are constantly harassed by assholes that don't want to fight, but just want to gank.

The point is, before asking people to return, seriously consider why they left in the first place.


If you do nothing, as you have for so long... nobody will return.

I had a new player in my corp recently, they left the game. I'll quote their reasoning below:



Can you blame them for choosing any other MMO ever? I can't. Do something about the many reasons a lot of people leave. This is tough medicine, and I don't want to step on toes, but you need to hear it.

It doesn't help that null is essentially two or three large nap-fests, and getting anywhere there is painful at best. So most people that have goals of running space empires are quickly squashed out. so that is out of the question for a large group of people.

EVE really isn't nice to new players, or even players that burnt out for any of the above reasons.

Evolve, or die. Until then, you're out of luck.

Tl;dr: I could invite a lot of people back, but why would I when there isn't any point?

This is akin to trucking companies having sign on bonuses and guaranteed weekly minimum incomes offered by 'paid by the load' companies. People leave. The grass starts to stale and turn brown. Loss of employees is large. Or in this case, paying players.

To attract them programs are introduced. But, with nothing of significance to retain them they'll still leave. In the case of a rl company, having sign on bonuses and weekly gross pay guarantees don't really work once those who sign on learn of the dirty little secrets. Money goes out the window for the pursuit of decency and happiness. Without major, meaningful expansions in lieu of ship balancing facades the lameness will continue. Therefore I would be reluctant to think this program will be very successful.

Those who have left won't be spurred to come back by a friend's nudge if not nudged by CCP's awesomeness. It is the lack thereof that many have left and continue to stay absent.

GL though.

Reading this thread, you'd think that EVE was in decline.

The facts do not seem to agree with that hypothesis.

Of course people come and go, and some go for good. EVE certainly retains players (once they are hooked at least) better than any other MMO I have played.

Yes you can use this resubscribe your old alt if you wish.

The T & C's statement is just intended to protect against any unforeseen abuses of the system.

Why can they not resub with direct debit I was just wondering? Most people I know always pay with direct debit.

Also, just a small clarification. What exactly do you need to do to be eligible for the PLEX? Invite 3 accounts all in the same month?

Such is life in a public sandbox. They keep letting the public in.

Because of history of frauds with certain payment metods

You're thinking of a solo sandbox. Eve is a multi-player sandbox game where the multi-player part isn't optional.

It's not my perception (and that of many others) that is flawed here, it's your perception of what Eve is vs. what you wish it was.

Intelligent move.

oh and Eve isn't dying, this just gives people a method of getting people to reactivate old accounts they have.